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AnonLawyer
Location: I live in the North East
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Sadly Hate Speech, as vile and disgusting as it is, is protected here in the US. Many Court Cases, including those by the Supreme Court have held that it is protected as long as it does not incite to riot. I will make life easy, and just quote the law to you ;) Quote:
Skokie teaches that the content of speech, especially hate speech, cannot be prohibited merely because the content is hatefull. Brandenburg teaches that as long as Scilons don't specifically say, "Go beat up non-Scilons," they can continue their hate speech. Sorry to write all of this, but better to be well armed and understand all the issues. Now, Canada may be different, and there may be more you can do to prevent this kind of speech there, but you would have to consult a local attorney for that. Hope that helps
Lawyer and Corporate Schill Civil Liberties Expert Member, Former ACLU Member, Southern Poverty Law Center Founding Member, Campaign for Tolerance |
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Floof Goofer
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Welcome Martin!
Heard your Glossip interview as did other Anons across the globe. Please see these two posts of Scilon criminal actions at Spy vs Sci. Second paragraph is key on the first one from Vancouver: Vancouver, British Columbia Then there's the Battle Creek, Michigan petty theft, destruction of private property and not clearly evident on video, the assualt: Battle Creek, MI I'm sure the involved parties would appreciate your advice. Florida Chanology, Pix and Stuff |
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AnonLawyer
Location: I live in the North East
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My cats are indoor cats, so to get them, that means: 1) Breaking and Entering 2) Burglary 3) Warrantless Entry 4) Cruelty to Animals And probably many more, so they are welcome to try to go after my Kitties, who are little Land Sharks in their own right ![]()
Lawyer and Corporate Schill Civil Liberties Expert Member, Former ACLU Member, Southern Poverty Law Center Founding Member, Campaign for Tolerance |
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Re: A Lawyer Answers Your Questions!!
CA,
I was chompin' at the bit for this one and asked earlier on his take on the sign haters in Battle Creek, MI: Quote:
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AnonLawyer
Location: I live in the North East
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The Anon's are also correct about the masks, so make sure that you bring that letter with you each time so you can put the Scilons in their place. Hope this helps
Lawyer and Corporate Schill Civil Liberties Expert Member, Former ACLU Member, Southern Poverty Law Center Founding Member, Campaign for Tolerance |
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Floof Goofer
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The Vancouver branch incident sure smacks of culpable negligence to me. Could you please post your advice in those threads or PM the parties involved? There's a >9000 chance the parties will get the message then, and a much slimmer chance they'll catch it in this sticky thread that will grow huge. Florida Chanology, Pix and Stuff |
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This has not happened to my knowledge but....
What if someone who got the silly letter goes on to commit a crime against the scilons and get arrested. Can the Scilons use the fact that they sent the person the letter to get the person in more legal trouble? Once again, THIS HASN'T REALLY HAPPENED. NOBODY GET YOUR KNICKERS IN A KNOT. |
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They might accidently give out info about names/relationships with the orgs (info about the C&D letters and the lawyers/PI/Servers they use in the area, for example). Or info about who does their DVD video processing. I say, if the Co$ wants to give us mountains of papers, let them. —L. Ron Hubbard, New Slant On Life" |
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Re: A Lawyer Answers Your Questions!!
Question #2
For those who received letters, there has been some talk of calling and/or writing to the law firm that sent the letters in hopes of racking up billable hours. You know, getting into an hour long conversation or sending a 5 page letter. Is this a good idea? |
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AnonLawyer
Location: I live in the North East
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I would recommend sending a simple letter stating why the allegations are wrong, and that if they continue to harass you via mail you will retain legal counsel. Hope this helps
Lawyer and Corporate Schill Civil Liberties Expert Member, Former ACLU Member, Southern Poverty Law Center Founding Member, Campaign for Tolerance |
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AnonLawyer
Location: I live in the North East
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Hope this helps
Lawyer and Corporate Schill Civil Liberties Expert Member, Former ACLU Member, Southern Poverty Law Center Founding Member, Campaign for Tolerance |
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Not WBM
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Re: A Lawyer Answers Your Questions!!
Related to the incident with the kids at the LA Subway Restaurant. Reports indicate someone from the local Org has been posting "No Anonymous" signs in Subway without permission for several weeks.
After this latest incident with a rep from the org interfering with Subway's business by acting to physically keep Anon's (including young kids) from entering to eat, would the Subway manager have grounds to get a restraining order a) prohibiting Cof$ from posting "No Anon" signs in Subway's windows and, b) prohibiting anyone from the org from interfering with Subway's customers, whether Anon or not? Or would something like that have to originate at Subway Corporate level? BigBeard |
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AnonLawyer
Location: I live in the North East
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The manager could ask that the signs be removed, and should have. It should now be kicked up to corporate in the form of a lawsuit to prevent it from happening at *any* subway ever again. Hope this helps ![]() P.S. We need a Shark Smilie Land Shark needs LULZ Lawyer and Corporate Schill Civil Liberties Expert Member, Former ACLU Member, Southern Poverty Law Center Founding Member, Campaign for Tolerance |
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i was just a little kid, but i clearly remember seeing those signs in the South, and frankly, i had the same first response when i saw that sign--the familiar chilling memory. |
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Location: http://www.youtube.com/user/13Heathens
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It reinforced why I don't consider myself Anonymous, even if you folks do have my support. I DO oppose many of their beliefs, and have no problems saying so. YouTube - Truth In Scripture - No Civil Rights without Conversion! |
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