williambuddusky

Attention on deck.
Harpoons have taken their toll. HB358 has gone beneath the waves.
Well done, to all who participated in this effort to educate the legislators and Governor Lingle of Hawai'i.
Carry on.

Measure History

"6/30/2009 S Notice of Intent to veto dated 06-30-09 (Gov. Msg. No. 781) "
Translation: GTFO
"6/30/2009 H Notice of intent to veto (Gov. Msg. No. 465) "
Translation: SIIYE

TinyDancer

Previous threads on this matter:

Hawaii representative call for drug rehab facility modelled after Second Chance
HB 358 Harpoon DIRECT HIT

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FUCK

Nice job Hawai'i anons.

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Anonymous

High five to all involved

...isn't democracy just soo time consuming sometimes? if people would only just do the fair and just thing right from the get go :)

fitch2000

excellent job people

Vir

The acceptable outcome would be either assurances that the new program would use drug treatment modalities approved by the Hawai'i department of health, or lieu of such assurances, a veto.

Note that is only an intent to veto message and not final, but their reasoning is pretty good: http://hawaii.gov/gov/news/files/200...ist%202009.pdf
The plan by the bill's initial proponents was obviously to send drug offenders to Narconon and Second Chance facilities in other states, or to build one in Hawaii, as mentioned in their documentation.

When/if the bill is finally vetoed, it will end up here:
Governor's Statements of Objection (Veto) — Office of the Governor

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Anonymous

Good work to everyone involved.

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AnonyMary

Well, it's not over yet.... The bill may well be passed despite this and we need to get letters to the governor ASAP. Theres an upcoming deadline I will write one tonite. See this VVVVVV

Governor Lingle Submits Potential Veto List to Legislature Written by KGMB9 News - news@kgmb9.com June 30, 2009 05:42 PM From the Governor's Office:
Governor Linda Lingle today submitted to the State Legislature a list of 65 bills that she is considering for potential vetoes.

The bills are being considered for potential veto due to various factors including significant negative impacts on the public, legal or constitutional concerns, potential unintended consequences, and technical flaws in the legislation. Because of the complexity of certain bills, the Governor has placed them on the list to preserve her option to veto them while the Administration continues to review the legislation.

Specific areas of concern include bills that would extract more taxes from state residents (HB 1271, SB 1678 and HB 1544); impact end-of-life choices (HB 1379); curtail affordable housing choices (SB 1160 and SB 1350); and, remove the Public Utility Commission's oversight to control basic telephone service (SB 603).

In addition, due to the unprecedented $2.7 billion revenue shortfall between now and June 30, 2011, as projected by the Council on Revenues, the Lingle-Aiona Administration has increased scrutiny of all bills for potential budgetary implications. As a result, a number of bills were put on the potential veto list because they call for new or increased spending at a time when the State cannot afford to expand the cost of government or further deplete the State's limited fiscal resources. Twelve bills on the list fall into this category of potentially negative fiscal implications (HB 36, HB 343, HB 358, HB 982, HB 986, HB 989, HB 1504, HB 1809, SB 266, SB 423, SB 1248 and SB 1665).

The Governor is required by the Hawai'i Constitution to give the Legislature 10 days notice of any bill she is considering vetoing, prior to the deadline when she must take final action on the bills passed in the 2009 legislative session. This year the deadline to veto bills is July 15.

Any bill on the potential veto list can still be signed by the Governor or allowed to become law without her signature. Placing the bills on the potential veto list allows the Governor additional time to deliberate, and provides further opportunities for the public to voice their support or concern relating to the bills.

Bills not on the potential veto list cannot be vetoed. Therefore, the list is more inclusive to preserve the Governor's option to veto a measure that is still being reviewed.

Over the next 10 days, the Lingle-Aiona Administration will continue to carefully review the bills on the list. As she has done every year since taking office, the Governor has been seeking comments on bills passed this legislative session from the public, including individuals, businesses, industry and professional associations, nonprofit groups, and community organizations statewide. In addition, the Administration sought input from legislators, the counties, law enforcement agencies, neighbor island liaisons and state boards and commissions.


This year the Legislature passed 251 bills. As of today, 163 bills have become law. Four bills were vetoed while the Legislature was still in session. For a complete list of bills that have become law this legislative session or to read the Governor's statements of objections on bills already vetoed, visit the Governor's Web site at: www.hawaii.gov/gov/initiatives/laws.

Public comments on the 65 bills being considered for vetoes on July 15 may be sent to the Governor's office as follows:

• Email:
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• Fax:
  (808) 586-0006
• Mail:
  Office of the Governor
  Hawai'i State Capitol, Executive Chambers
  Honolulu, Hawai'i 96813

TypingChimp

Damn. I knew Hawai'i was my favorite banana republic for a reason.

I find myself basking in the glory of Scientology's Eternal October. It is beautiful seeing the ruin David Miscavige has pulled in. All of that pain, all of that suffering, all finally coming home to roost. Call it karma, justice, "what goes around comes around." I call it beautiful.

To everybody else, I mock you with my ice cream cone, Amish guy.

In memory of the victims, or, I am a moralfag.

Lorelei

Well done, Hawai'iAnons!

Don't get complacent until it is vetoed, though.

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Lorelei

*deja vu*

williambuddusky

JeeZUZ, the bill that wouldn't die!


One more round of letters, then. This time I'm aiming for the head!

AnonyMary

Don't give up. It looks like shge vetoed it. Must find Msg 800

6/30/2009HNotice of intent to veto (Gov. Msg. No. 465)7/10/2009HVetoed (Gov. Msg. No. 485).7/10/2009S
Vetoed on 07-10-09 - Returned from the Governor without approval (Gov. Msg. No. 800).

Measure History

Have you read this damning letter?

Letters to the Editor - Hawaii Editorials - Starbulletin.com
Cult-based treatment isn't the answer


Normally, we would support a legislator's initiative to propose drug treatment over incarceration. Unfortunately we cannot support Rep. Rida Cabanilla's proposed House Bill 358 (Star-Bulletin, March 20) as it is terribly misguided. She says this bill is based on the "nationally recognized Second Chance program of New Mexico." In fact, this program is based on the principles of Scientology and has not been proven to be effective. The basic principles themselves are controversial and not science-based. If legislators are going to propose treatment programs, it behooves them to do some research and ensure that taxpayer money is used for effective, evidence-based programs. There are many of them.
We agree with Cabanilla that incarceration is expensive, ineffective and leads to high rates of recidivism. We hope she will instead vote for proposals which would add drug treatment beds to our prisons, increase community-based programs for nonviolent drug offenders and establish re-entry programs. One such bill is SB 540 SD2 HD1 which adds beds at Oahu Community Correctional Center for the second part, the re-entry portion of the Residential Drug Abuse Program currently being used in Hawaii facilities.

Jeanne Y. Ohta
Executive director
Drug Policy Forum of Hawaii

AnonyMary

Yippee!


After posting the above, I just saw that the Governor's veto was
posted late yesterday. I tracked down the letter and here is what it
says:
July 10, 2009
The Honorable Colleen Hanabusa, President
and Members of the Senate
Twenty-Fifth State Legislature
State Capitol, Room 409
Honolulu, Hawaii 96813


Dear Madam President and Members of the Senate:



I am transmitting herewith HB3 5 8 HD 1 SD 1 CD 1, without my approval, and with the statement of objections relating to the measure. HB358 HDI SDI CDI A BILL FOR AN ACT RELATING TO DRUG TREATMENT.
Sincerely,
~~
LINDA L:GI,J -
EXECUTIVE CHAMBERS
HONOLULU
July 10, 2009
STATEMENT OF OBJECTIONS TO HOUSE BILL NO. 358


Honorable Members
Twenty-Fifth Legislature
State of Hawaii

Pursuant to Section 16 of Article III of the Constitution of the State of Hawaii, I am returning herewith, without my approval, House Bill No. 358, entitled "A Bill for an Act Relating to Drug Treatment."

The purpose of this legislation is to permit the courts to require that an individual reside in a secure drug treatment facility as a condition of probation. The legislation defines this facility as a minimum-security detention center, including continuous direct supervision. This bill is objectionable because it
conflicts with nationally-accepted security protocols within the corrections
profession and instructs the courts to direct offenders to facilities that do not exist within the State.

First, the terminology used in this bill is not in keeping with the security procedures and requirements that the Department of Public Safety must follow. Minimum-security detention centers do not require continuous direc~ supervision of each inmate, but this bill would establish a new standard that would require this security protocol. This requirement would create a new
type of detention center with supervision, staffing ratios, and physical confinement requirements that are not recognized within the corrections professions and not in keeping with the requirements set by the U. S. Department of Justice.


Second, this bill presents serious operational problems since it would instruct the courts to direct probationers to facilities that do not exist and where there are no immediate or foreseeable plans for these facilities to exist. Additionally, the concepts in this bill are based on questionable treatment principles that have been not been shown to provide the types of evidence-based drug rehabilitation outcomes that are considered effective, as noted by the Drug Policy Forum of Hawaii.

My Administration has been at the forefront of developing programs that address substance abuse and that provide appropriate treatment regimens and settings for those who require substance abuse treatment. This legislation fails to accomplish its intended purpose. For the foregoing reasons, I am returning House Bill No. 358 without my approval.
Respectfully,
Linda Lingle
Governor of Hawaii
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/sessio...lls/GM800_.PDF

JohnnyRUClear

Ohhhhh, that's gonna leave a mark.

Hey OSA:

"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." So, who/what checks Miscavige's power?

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pooks

Excellent work. Thanks.

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williambuddusky

Headshot!


7/10/2009 H Vetoed (Gov. Msg. No. 485).
7/10/2009 S Vetoed on 07-10-09 - Returned from the Governor without approval (Gov. Msg. No. 800).

Some of the language in Governor Lingle's Veto letter sounds familiar. Somebody's been reading our cards and letters.
Every member of the house and senate as well as the governor have been made newly aware of the Narconon scam, the ties to scientology, the damage it does and the attempts to hide behind new names like "Second Chance".

TypingChimp

I find myself basking in the glory of Scientology's Eternal October. It is beautiful seeing the ruin David Miscavige has pulled in. All of that pain, all of that suffering, all finally coming home to roost. Call it karma, justice, "what goes around comes around." I call it beautiful.

To everybody else, I mock you with my ice cream cone, Amish guy.

In memory of the victims, or, I am a moralfag.

AnonyMary

Oh, yes! Headshot for sure!! I wonder if the Gov knows this is the same drug program Kelly Preston is pushing with Narconon?

Good to see you posting. Lets keep getting the word out about these front groups.