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10-18-2008

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monamia

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Re: AP Ready Press Release On Uwe's Death

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Originally Posted by indeedindeed

Disagreement, he died in PAC RPF, not in Hemet.

I agree that the expression RPF should be introduced and explained, but it should also be used so that journalists may do independent research on the letters "RPF" and "Rehabilitation Project Force".

OK. I'm done. author can PM me if he/she wishes.
Best.

10-18-2008

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indeedindeed

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Re: AP Ready Press Release On Uwe's Death

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Originally Posted by monamia

how many years experience do you have? The reference follows the ACTIVE into to the graph. an anonymous quote is not credible.

If my proposal is good, I don't need experience.
If my proposal is bad, no experience will help me.
So it doesn't matter.

10-18-2008

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monamia BANNED	Re: AP Ready Press Release On Uwe's Death Sincere apologies for coming off so curt; I'm in a hurry now to get to Pasadena. But, in PR, I know my stuff! xo

10-18-2008

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cubby ULTRA WHORE	Re: AP Ready Press Release On Uwe's Death yes... this is what we write press releases about good thread End The Cult Wiki Needs Your Skillz * St Louis Anonymous Forum * St Louis Anonymous Ning David Miscavige and other noobs, feel free to PM me your dumb questions (i am predominantly helpful)

10-18-2008

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indeedindeed

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Re: AP Ready Press Release On Uwe's Death

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Originally Posted by monamia

Sincere apologies for coming off so curt; I'm in a hurry now to get to Pasadena.
But, in PR, I know my stuff!

xo

You may well be right with your suggestions, where I was of a different opinion I wrote so and now people may decide what they think best. Input is welcome and conflicting input is welcome too, so that all opinions get to be heard and some good quality comes out of it.

10-18-2008

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monamia BANNED	Re: AP Ready Press Release On Uwe's Death . dupe post

10-18-2008

post #47 (link to here)

monamia

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Re: AP Ready Press Release On Uwe's Death

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Originally Posted by indeedindeed

If my proposal is good, I don't need experience.
If my proposal is bad, no experience will help me.
So it doesn't matter.

well, reading the newspaper for style direction would be helpful.

10-18-2008

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NoMoreDiscoNnects Member	Re: AP Ready Press Release On Uwe's Death "Over the last 3 years" quote should be summarised.

10-20-2008

post #49 (link to here)

smythers Member Location: Los Angeles	Re: AP Ready Press Release On Uwe's Death Footbullet in the making. Time: wrong Place: wrong Form: wrong Documents?

10-20-2008

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Oinkertron9000

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Re: AP Ready Press Release On Uwe's Death

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Originally Posted by smythers

Footbullet in the making.

Time: wrong
Place: wrong
Form: wrong

Documents?

What is incorrect?

10-20-2008

post #51 (link to here)

iherduliekmudkips

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Re: AP Ready Press Release On Uwe's Death

My edit of Version 5:

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GERMAN CITIZEN UWE STUCKENBROCK FOUND DEAD AT SCIENTOLOGY PRISON CAMP

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

On October 7th Uwe Stuckenbrock, a German citizen and member of Scientology’s elite “Sea Org” group died at 45 in Scientology's prison camp in Los Angeles, CA. Stuckenbrock suffered from Multiple Sclerosis for many years prior to his passing. Uwe’s last known address placed him at the Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF) for the 12 years preceding his death.

According to Scientology, its Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF) program -- embedded in the group's paramilitary Sea Organization (Sea Org) -- is intended to offer rehabilitation to Scientologists who are having difficulties living up to their “professional and ethical responsibilities”. According to ex-Scientologists and Sociologist Dr. Stephen A. Kent of the University of Alberta (a recognized expert in new religious movements), the program is a brainwashing prison labor camp that is comparable to the cold-war era Soviet gulags [1]. Ex-members who were held in the RPF have consistently described the program as involving forced physical confinement, forced confessions, sleep deprivation, inadequate nutrition, squalid living arrangements, long hours of hard physical labor, mail censorship, and forced intensive study of Scientology material [2]. There are many accounts of attempted escapes and of armed guards and motion sensors being present at the facility. RPF facilities can be found in the "Flag Base" in Clearwater, Florida, the "Gold Base" in Gilman Hot Springs, California, and the Pacific Area Command Base (PAC Base) in Hollywood, California. Stuckenbrock had been held at the Hollywood location since 2001.

According to first-hand accounts from ex-members, medical conditions in RPF facilities are quite poor. The combination of labor, exercise, sleep, and diet weakens most inmates, and those with outstanding medical problems are routinely denied treatment. A former member of the RPF, Bruce Hines, remembers Stuckenbrock’s time in the RPF “Yes, Uwe arrived to the Int (Hollywood) RPF in 1997. I immediately recognized the wobbly walk as stemming from MS, before I even heard that he had it.”

Another member of the RPF, under conditions of anonymity, wrote a public letter in October of 2004 detailing Stuckenbrock’s decline “Over the last 3 years, I have watched him getting worse and worse […] When he arrived he had a hard time walking by himself, and this has deteriorated to the point of needing full time around the clock assistance. He always has one or two other RPF-ers caring for him, as at this point he cannot even make it to the bathroom by himself. He cannot walk at all now and he has to be taken around in a wheel chair. What I don't understand is that although he is being treated with a lot of natural foods and juices and vitamins and assists he's getting worse and worse.”

Scientology’s avid disaffection with modern medical treatment was demonstrated by celebrity Scientologist Tom Cruise’s public critique of Brooke Sheild’s temporary use of antidepressants after being diagnosed with post-partum depression [3].

Uwe’s brother Markus was informed of his brother’s death when his father, a Scientologist living in Germany, called him. “Last Tuesday, October 10th, 2008, at 22:30 I was informed by my father, [who is on] staff at Dianetics Stuttgart, that Uwe had died of an inflammation.” These are the only details Markus has of his brother’s death. He has posted the news on forums at the Ex-Scientologist Message Board in an effort to gain more information [4].

For more information on Mr. Stuckenbrocker's death, visit WhyWeProtest.net [5]
References:
[1] Link to Kent’s report on the RPF
[2] Link to testimonials about the RPF
[3] Video of the interview?
[4] Ex-Scientologist Message Board - Ex Scientologist
[5] Why We Protest - Home - Why We Protest

The main thing I noticed was that the release was WAY too "fluffy." It was too nice and polite. We are supposed to make a point with this document, that this guy DIED as the result of being locked up in a prison camp on US soil. Cut the nicey-nice language out, and do not call Scientology a "church." From the initial read-through I thought that parts of this were written by Scientology themselves!

Also, news agencies will not look at this release if they don't see proof of our claims. Having references for all of these stories is important, so that the credibility is there.

I would like to see a reference to the RPF order on Wikileaks put up there somehow. I think its pretty damning that we have proof of Hubbard saying "RPF members have no rights" in black-and-white.

I still think the first paragraph is too un-exciting. We need something that can tie in one or two sentences: "Uwe died because he was abused by Scientology, not given enough care for his MS, and forced to work long hours with no pay and in-humane living conditions."

Otherwise, it looks pretty good :)

Last edited by iherduliekmudkips; 10-20-2008 at 03:26 PM..

10-20-2008

post #52 (link to here)

smokescreen78

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Location: Mostly within my own frightening mind.

Re: AP Ready Press Release On Uwe's Death

Okay guise, here it is. The final draft, I hope.

Quote:

**Press Notice for Immediate Release**

Uwe Stuckenbrock died on October 7th at the age of 45 in Los Angeles under baffling circumstances. A member of The Church of Scientology’s elite Sea Organization, Stuckenbrock suffered from Multiple Sclerosis (MS) for many years prior to his passing. Stuckenbrock’s last know address placed him at the Pacific Area Command Base Rehabilitation Project Force for the 12 years preceding his death.

According to the Church of Scientology, the Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF), the correctional element of Scientology’s paramilitary Sea Organization (Sea Org), is intended to reform the behaviors and thoughts Scientologists who are having difficulties living up to their professional and ethical responsibilities as Sea Org members. However, according to ex-Scientologists and sociologist Dr. Stephen A. Kent of the University of Alberta (a recognized expert in new religious movements), the program is a brainwashing prison labor camp comparable to Soviet gulags. Ex-members who were held in the RPF have consistently described the program as involving forced physical confinement, forced confessions, sleep deprivation, inadequate nutrition, squalid living arrangements, hours of physical labor, mail censorship, and an intensive study of Scientology material. Officially, participation is voluntary. However, there are many accounts of escapees being forced to return. Armed guards and motion sensors are used to keep the “volunteers” within the property’s boundaries.

RPF facilities are located the "Flag Base" in Clearwater, Florida, the "Gold Base" in Gilman Hot Springs, California, and the Pacific Area Command Base (PAC Base) in Hollywood, California, where Stuckenbrock had been held since 2001.

According to accounts from ex-members, medical conditions in RPF facilities are quite poor. The combination of labor, exercise, sleep, and diet weakens most inmates, and those with outstanding medical problems are routinely denied treatment. A former member of the RPF, Bruce Hines, remembers Stuckenbrock’s time in the RPF “Yes, Uwe arrived to the Int RPF in 1997. I immediately recognized the wobbly walk as stemming from MS, before I even heard that he had it” Hines goes on to recall some of the treatment Stuckenbrock received from the The Church of Scientology. “One of the steps of New OT V addresses physical conditions and chronic somatics with an elaborate series of processes.”

Another member of the RPF , under conditions of anonymity, wrote a public letter in October of 2004 detailing Stuckenbrock’s decline “Over the last 3 years, I have watched him getting worse and worse, though it seems that he is getting some of [sic.] attention and care. When he arrived he had a hard time walking by himself, and this has deteriorated to the point of needing full time around the clock assistance. He always has one or two other RPFers caring for him, as at this point he cannot even make it to the bathroom by himself. He cannot walk at all now and he has to be taken around in a wheel chair. What I don't understand is that although he is being treated with a lot of natural foods and juices and vitamins and assists he's getting worse and worse.”

Despite Scientology’s avowed distaste for the interference of modern medicine, Stuckenbrock reportedly did receive some medical care in 2004. “He does go to the local hospital sometimes with two people escorting him. He's getting checkups at LA County Hospital or somewhere, where the church is getting free service on Medicare, because we RPFers simply don't have any money for any medical bills. Not long ago, we had to prepare a separate room for him on the 2nd floor in the West wing, [sic.] next to the stairwell towards Catalina Street. He had been in the hospital and in critical condition.”

Uwe’s brother Markus was informed of his brother’s death when his father, a Scientologist living in Germany, called him. “Last [T]uesday 07.10.2008 at 22:30 I was informed by my father, staff at Dianetics Stuttgart, that Uwe had died of an inflammation.” These are the only details Markus has of his brother’s death. He has posted the news on forums at Ex Scientologist in an effort to get answers.

For more information on Mr. Stuckenbrocker's death, go to Home - Why We Protest

Those who follow the path of least resistance usually get the least.

10-20-2008

post #53 (link to here)

Anonynamefag Super-pressive Location: Neverland Ranch	Re: AP Ready Press Release On Uwe's Death ^^ This. Copyright my ass, if he said RPF members are basically the equivalent of political prisoners, then use it. I'LL GET YOU, AND YOUR LITTLE DOG TOO

10-20-2008

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smokescreen78 Member Location: Mostly within my own frightening mind.	Re: AP Ready Press Release On Uwe's Death Hope there are no more corrections. Will hold off on dist. for 3 hours in case major fact change needed. Those who follow the path of least resistance usually get the least.

10-20-2008

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smokescreen78 Member Location: Mostly within my own frightening mind.	Re: AP Ready Press Release On Uwe's Death Dub Post Those who follow the path of least resistance usually get the least. Last edited by smokescreen78; 10-20-2008 at 03:27 PM.. Reason: same

10-20-2008

post #56 (link to here)

smokescreen78 Member Location: Mostly within my own frightening mind.	Re: AP Ready Press Release On Uwe's Death There are always going to be style points I could change. I will only change now if facts are wrong. Those who follow the path of least resistance usually get the least.

10-20-2008

post #57 (link to here)

smokescreen78

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Location: Mostly within my own frightening mind.

Re: AP Ready Press Release On Uwe's Death

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Originally Posted by iherduliekmudkips

My edit of Version 5:

The main thing I noticed was that the release was WAY too "fluffy." It was too nice and polite. We are supposed to make a point with this document, that this guy DIED as the result of being locked up in a prison camp on US soil. Cut the nicey-nice language out, and do not call Scientology a "church." From the initial read-through I thought that parts of this were written by Scientology themselves!

Also, news agencies will not look at this release if they don't see proof of our claims. Having references for all of these stories is important, so that the credibility is there.

I would like to see a reference to the RPF order on Wikileaks put up there somehow. I think its pretty damning that we have proof of Hubbard saying "RPF members have no rights" in black-and-white.

I still think the first paragraph is too un-exciting. We need something that can tie in one or two sentences: "Uwe died because he was abused by Scientology, not given enough care for his MS, and forced to work long hours with no pay and in-humane living conditions."

Otherwise, it looks pretty good :)

Thanks for your input! Remember, we need to keep this story palatable for ALL readers. We want to spread the message, not engage in shock and awe.

Those who follow the path of least resistance usually get the least.

10-20-2008

post #58 (link to here)

iherduliekmudkips Member	Re: AP Ready Press Release On Uwe's Death Of course it shouldn't sound like "foaming-at-the-mouth" anger, but it should make it clear that we don't agree with the abuse that Uwe has went through. Our position was not very clear in the previous edits. Please take a look at my edit. There were a lot of minor edits that were made in addition to what I mentioned. Let me know what you think!

10-20-2008

post #59 (link to here)

NoMoreDiscoNnects Member	Re: AP Ready Press Release On Uwe's Death Nice work, iherduliekmudkips.

10-20-2008

post #60 (link to here)

Anonynamefag Super-pressive Location: Neverland Ranch	Re: AP Ready Press Release On Uwe's Death I agree. Nice work. I'LL GET YOU, AND YOUR LITTLE DOG TOO

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