indeedindeed

Ok, next time I'll shut my mouth when you suggest he died in Hemet, when he actually died in LA. Also, I'll shut my mouth as soon as some anonymous person claims to be an expert in a field and disagrees with me.

If you're an expert in some field and an amateur like me strongly disagrees with you, don't get butthurt, personal ("How many years of experience do you have?") and cynical, rather stand your ground based on facts and explain your position. Chances are your viewpoint will prevail.

dontmakemeangry

Just stick to the facts, do not spread rumors. Remember that his dad is still in. I'm sure Markus would like to remain in contact with him.

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iaxiloll

I didn´t read anything about do not spread the truth. Stay focused.

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xenubarb

Perhaps Markus got a little cult-generated "incentive" to ask us to back off...

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justanotheranon

This ^^^ would be my guess too.

Let's get some facts and see how we can use that to bring down the cult.

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aNONanon

It doesn't matter if he did or not ... anons should respect the facts (if not the people) This Uwe thing seems to be overblown with no convincing evidence to back it up ... it's opportunistic and if not based on facts, propaganda ... and I fucking hate propaganda ... so fuck you all who are spreading unverified info!

Anon123456

my opinion:

i respect that his brother died but he clearly wanted to get word out.

Fuck em. he asked for help, we gave it. now he scolds us? apparently he really didnt want the help in the first place. maybe he thought he was talking to the chess club and not an international group of asskickers. his bad, not ours.

Uwe who?

monamia

working with a draft for structure, obviously

sorry, i apologize for it all.

i'll butt out, not here to argue or create problems.
not butt hurt, i don't care that much, thought it was pretty shaky stuff to start with: No facts beginning with cause of death,
all hearsay

monamia

He's confused, far away and in pain. Let's cut him some slack until we can get some independent verifiable facts. Hard stuff for him to process, these are real people, and this is a tragic situation. Let's take a moment; the response here was sincere.
Time will help.

We can move forward once we have a COD in a more strategic way. (cause of death)

Anonynamefag

Knowing the cult, they already cremated him and disposed of the evidence.
We're not going to get a COD that we can prove, assuming they already did.

Assuming they didn't, however, we need to get the Los Angeles DA's office to get a warrant for the body. It's a wonder that they didn't already... the cult must be paying them hush money.

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muldrake

When Scientology kills someone through its incompetence and evil, it is not merely a crime against that person or his or her family, but against the world. These cases should be publicized for the sake of the rest of the people endangered by Scientology's lunacy.

While this should always be with accurate information, nobody has the right to demand silence about yet another person murdered by this cult. People don't die directly from MS. But they can die from complications easily, especially if they're kept away from adequate medical care, on purpose, and in conditions that almost amount to torture.

dontmakemeangry

oops, of course. Thanks for pointing it out

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indeedindeed

you are right that there weren't much facts, but there were at least some coming from his brother and he wanted the story to be spread.
I'm ready to admit at any time you understand much more of press releases than me, I fail at them. Fact-checking is yet another story and if the facts aren't correct in a PR good form won't help.
Maybe we can get more facts, but how?

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genoramix

i agree with the above, FACTS are needed. However, the problem here is that the facts are mainly given by a scientologist(the father).

I think it's also important to make Marcus know that the information he has might be biased even if it's from his own father(since it seems to be a bit of what the conflict is about)m and that ANY current scilons will make evrything to protect the Co$.(unless they already are on our side)

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3rdMan

I am very glad I hadn't distributed any media on this yet. I look forward to the facts though. I say we still pursue finding out the truth on Stuckenbrock's death, despite his bro's wishes. He asks for our help, then turns 180 on us. But, anonymous ain't anyone's personal army, it does what it pleases. I have sympathy for anyone who looses a family member, but something ain't right about his sudden change in disposition.

meathead

Exactly that situation came to reality, which I thought in the beginning. Maybe Anonymous should really step a little bit back, some really hold on that "new situation" .... should care about our stuff lil' bit.

AnonymousUnanimous

I missed a memo, a meeting, something.

Where the fuck was I when everyone was hurling Uwe harpoons? Should I toss a few to catch up?

Little_Sister

What is the current standing point on this? Is there a pending investigation? Has anyone seen or heard anything about the COD? Are there any updates about what Markus is doing about this?

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