DiamondAnastasia

We need more informations about following questions-please help!


-can anybody in LA contact the physiotherapist (one supposedly visited him in the blue building) of Uwe in order to get more informations. Telephone numbers and adresses of all physiotherapists near the PAC building?

-does anybody know in which hospitals Uwe went to when he was in very bad condition in the PAC RPF? Names of responsible doctors in these hospitals.

-does anybody know more about the last year of Uwes life. 2007 - 2008.

-In which sanatorium did he live then or was he still living in the blue PAC building?

-does anybody know more about his blow from the Sea-Org in 1997?

-is it true that DM has a relationship with Laurisse Stuckenbrock and where is his wife right now? Is it true that she is missing?

-does anybody know if Stephen Wills and a guy named Alan Richard Povall are still Sea Org staffmembers. How can i contact them.

-Are Karen Wagner Rudy B. Ferguson still in Scientology - how can I contact one of them?

-does somebody know when Uwe exactly got the diagnosis MS?

-how was Uwe treated in the RPF over the years? Is it true that he had a special provision in the RPF? Did he always had to run" in the beginning and untill when?

-everybody in this or other Ex Scientology boards who lives in LA - can you please try to get any Information you can find about Uwes Life?! Please help me to investigate this matter!

-All people who read this and live in LA or know something about Uwes life please let me know!

-Does anybody know anything about the ceremony for Uwe in LA? Please let me know. Who was there. Did he have any real friends at the end. How can I contact them?

-what kind of medical care was provided for him? Exactly with periods of time!

-every person reading this and living in LA please help me to investigate this case!

-is anybody here in contact with Laurisse Stuckenbrock or with her sister?


This Thread you can post whereever you want to.

Thanks for your help!

Markus

Scientology

AnonMomAnon2

I believe that Laurisse was with DM at the races with Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes? Does anyone have the pix from that event?

AnonMomAnon2

Uwe Stuckenbrock - more things to think about - alt.religion.scientology | Google Groups

This is where I saw that info about Laurisse and Uwe.

tazor

I thought we were told to back off.

Scientology was just a joke written by hack science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard. Xenu is the punch line.

Please! Don't get the fuck me out! At least let me be in the dome! ~Lily the Troll~

TheStig

That was the MotoGP race at Laguna Seca, CA, July 20th 2008.

dontmakemeangry

Factual info is fine.

His "back off" message was directed towards certain people who were spreading false accusations about his family members. Obviously that is insensitive and disrespectful. Keep in mind that Uwe's father is still a Scientologist, while Markus is an exScn, complicating things at a very painful time for the whole family.

Keep being skeptical of rumors and stay respectful - I think that's a reasonable request.

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tazor

Gotcha. One suggestion, no doctor will release any info except maybe to family members. There's only so much information we can get for him. He'll probably have to step in himself at some point.

Scientology was just a joke written by hack science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard. Xenu is the punch line.

Please! Don't get the fuck me out! At least let me be in the dome! ~Lily the Troll~

3rdMan

So its actually okay we tell the public about Uwe's death and the circumstances surrounding it? Just leave out info on the family? Heck, that is all and well perfect. Since when were we sharing info on that? I thought it was all about Uwe's death, RPF, and MS.

AnonMomAnon2

^^^^The pix from that race are in the link that I posted earlier. It's supposedly Laurisse with DM, Tom, and Katie.

NotBobMinton

We can try to track down the doctor(s) & let him know that only family members can get access to the information he seeks from them.

dontmakemeangry

Yeah, I was a bit uncertain so I PMed him on ESMB, he said he doesn't have a problem with protesters, as long as people are respectful and careful to stick to the facts. Markus is still seeking more info and I get the sense he wants to get more evidence and precise details before taking it further himself.

For example, Uwe was in the PAC RPF as recently as 2007, but where exactly he was since then isn't clear. Apparently he may have been transferred to a sanatorium in Los Angeles in the months before his death, so we cannot say for certain whether he was still "on the RPF" when he died. CoS will seize on little details like that to discredit the story, even though the gist of it remains the same.

If you explain to the public what the RPF is, it already sounds disturbing and abusive. Uwe's story highlights the lack of compassion shown by the CoS leadership.

Yep, that's right. The basic story as I see it:

Uwe was a Scientologist who for many years (1997-2001 RPF in Happy Valley, then PAC RPF in Los Angeles until at least 2007) suffered the inhumane conditions of the RPF program while becoming increasingly disabled by multiple sclerosis. In 2004 a former RPF detainee posted a message describing the terrible conditions and insufficient healthcare - Uwe passed away in October 2008 and his family is grieving. There are questions about the inadequate medical care for Sea Org members, fraudulent claims that Scientology practices cure disease, and the effect of stressful RPF detention on Uwe's condition.

Blog: Stop Scientology's Abuse of Human Rights

Bluebell

More questions about my brothers suffering in Scientology


-does anybody know in which hospitals Uwe went to when he was in very bad condition in the PAC RPF? Names of responsible doctors in these hospitals.
-does anybody know more about the last year of Uwes life. 2007 - 2008.

-In which sanatorium did he live then or was he still living in the blue PAC building?

-does anybody know more about his blow from the Sea-Org in 1997?

-is it true that DM has a relationship with Laurisse Stuckenbrock and where is his wife right now? Is it true that she is missing?

-does anybody know if Stephen Wills and a guy named Alan Richard Povall are still Sea Org staffmembers. How can I contact them.

-Are Karen Wagner Rudy B. Ferguson still in Scientology - how can I contact one of them?

-does somebody know when Uwe exactly got the diagnosis MS?

-how was Uwe treated in the RPF over the years? Is it true that he had a special provision in the RPF? Did he always had to run" in the beginning and untill when?

-everybody in this or other Ex Scientology boards who lives in LA - can you please try to get any Information you can find about Uwes Life?! Please help me to investigate this matter!

-All people who read this and live in LA or know something about Uwes life please let me know!

-Does anybody know anything about the ceremony for Uwe in LA? Please let me know. Who was there. Did he have any real friends at the end. How can I contact them?

-what kind of medical care was provided for him? Exactly with periods of time!

-every person reading this and living in LA please help me to investigate this case!

-is anybody here in contact with Laurisse Stuckenbrock or with her sister?


This Thread you can post whereever you want to.

Thanks for your help!

Markus

Lorelei

Markus: I am so sorry for your loss.

Protesting the abusive practices of the Cult of Scientology is pertinent to my interests.
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Bluebell

Not sure whats happening on this, seems to of fizzled out

MrNiceNice

Mracus,
Much sympathy towards your loss.

Medical Privacy: Frequently Asked Questions

-- Item 12 --

In the US we have HIPAA... which protects medical information from being exploited by employers, insurance companies (medical & life) and many other
"you name its". A live patient has to sign a release form for information to
be released. (...note to others... DON'T check the "blanket release" box (on
most forms) unless you really/really mean it.

You (Marcus) are a direct blood relative of the deceased (sadly). MS, if this was
indeed the diagnosis, is a genetic disorder and you should be able to recieve
ANY and ALL
(hint-ANY and ALL-hint)
of you brothers records as they impact *directly*
(hint-DIRECTLY-hint)
on YOUR health.
This means ANY and ALL of your health/health-care concernes both
immediate and future.

That's the good news. The mediocre news is that you may have to contact and
visit a doctor that has some form of neurological specialty and he *should*
request your brother's records as background to "work up" and "identify"
your specific health care needs.

Let's assume there is a German Consulate in LA. Let's assume you know how
to contact a person or persons withing your foreign service. Let's assume....

This is EXACTLY the sort of thing that consulates and diplomatic people should be good at. .... slow at. But good at. Contacts should be made on your 'home front'
and perfected before anything is transmitted to the US. Preferably.

Best, m

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Scientology. Satan's little gift to the New Age.

moose

can anyone confirm that this is actually Laurisse?
http://m.blog.hu/ob/objektivszcn/image/dm/4.jpg

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AnonMomAnon2

somewhere in this mess of a forum there is a picture of Uwe and Laurisse. From that older picture it did look like the same woman in this picture. i've done a perfunctory search for the older pic and can't find it.

also, more than one person over in OCMB has said that's Laurisse in the pic with DM, tommy boy, and his skeletal wife.

NoMoreDiscoNnects

That is Laurisse.

MrNiceNice

Markus,

Public Inquiry Form Page

simple on-line form

12 or so items in drop box for "Service Area to Route Request to ".

Ask them for assistance in obtaining any and all information they may have
in their files. ...reports, certificates, photos...
Should be available a a reasonable cost.

Best, m

Scientology. Satan's little gift to the New Age.