Vir

The Mario Majorski case seems to be a rather obvious case of a Scientologist either "going postal" or comitting suicide by ex-cop at the Celebrity Centre where he had attended in the past.

Even so, are there anyone who knows when the inquest is - if there is one - and anyone who want to attend it so we can get first-hand reports from it?

My main points of interest are:

- Would they perhaps show the video recording of the incident at the inquest even if they won't release it to the media?

- Were the blades Majorski brought sharpened katanas, or unsharpened iaito practice blades? One could assume that if he showed up with unsharpened blades he had intended to be killed without hurting anyone, but if he came with actually sharp blades he probably tried to hurt and kill people (going postal).

- Who are Majorski's next of kin, and do they seem interested in investigating more about the details of Majorski's Scientology involvement. Are his next of kin Scientologists themselves?

- Are anyone in a position to request the official report from the coroner or medical examiner?

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whoever

Has there been a report that there'll be an inquest, or are you just assuming there will be one? As far as I know, an inquest is not an automatic thing.

Vir

I don't know.

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CLOCKSHIT

Its very suspicious that this video did not surface yet!

How many bullets did the guard fired?

Was the guard going backwards when he fired?

If he is the only one that fired (64 old fatty cop) are police protecting one of their own?

Did he fire because he knew he could not outrun Mario? If he shot only once, beside being a lucky shot, could he not shoot him in the legs to stop him or better yet fire a shot as a warning?



Are the detectives in CO$ pocket?

Why or Why the news media is not pressuring for more info and the video?

Are any of the other police officers at the site that day of the shooting cult members or for that matter is any detective investigating a cult member?

What are the police so afraid of with this video?

There should be an inquest period, too many lose ends. Mario's association with CO$, warnings, threats, brainwashing, fair game.....etc

I'm just another bloke who wants the true facts!

Vir

When the police don't release the video, it goes back to the CoS because it's private property. The LAPD might have made copies though. If anyone has a standing to see the video, it would have to be Majorski's relatives.

One.

Maybe. More likely he was standing still.

How do you know he's fat? And police officers and former police officers DO get arrested and prosecuted very often in America. Just go on a news website.

We have discussed this many times already. When you're the only armed guard in the vicinity, you don't run away and let your fellow guards and civilians get killed by a sword-wielding maniac. And everyone is taught to shoot in the torso. You don't have time to aim for the legs.

The homicide detectives, their superviosors and everyone in the DA office? That is rather unlikely. There are some Scientologists in the LAPD though, such as in the office responsible for RICO investigation (oh the irony). With the LAPD having over 10 000 employees, it's not strange if some are Scientologists, but they should of course not be put on cases involving Scientology - just like if an officer is married to a suspect in a case they should not be investigating it.

Because "Crazy person goes berserk, gets shot by guard/police" isn't really all that uncommon in LA. Majorski isn't the first to go berserk with katanas either. Actually people have been killed with katanas in LA.

As far as we know, the security guard wasn't a cult member.

That Batman is going to fap to it. No, seriously.

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moose

Vir, there's no point in guessing to what might have happened.
And the fact that some things have been discussed earlier doesn't mean we have any answers.

You 'answering' all questions about majorski starts to become somewhat annoying

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Vir

We don't need to guess. We know a lot about this situation as it is. There was a tape of the whole incident which has been viewed by homicide investigators. If you don't bother reading the threads we already have on this, you'll just have to live with your questions being answered the same.

Either that or actually do something to get to see the tape.

There are also people who are working on listing Scientologists inside the LAPD. If it turns out that every officer on this case is a Scientologist, then you might have a case, but it seems highly unlikely.

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MarcabEmpress

According to KTLA News, and this announcement was made a couple days after the shooting, the video tape would not be released to the public because it was too graphic. An inquest is only necessary if there are major questions...and frankly if this had happened at a synagogue or supermarket, the answers would be the same "guard did his job."

I would love to know the sequence of calls--was 911 called before or after Moxon for instance. And yes it would be enlightening to know what sent Mario over the edge. But this is a pretty clear cut case of crazy guy...why he went crazy we won't know unless relatives produce 13 years of freeloader debt dunning letters (and that's speculation on my part)

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Relyt

You so badly want this to be a conspiracy.

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I can't wait to see how Herro twists this one!

auchraw

We know Mario had family: a twin brother with one or more children, and a source of mine hinted very strongly that he also had a child or children. This is public domain record stuff if you live in LA or I suppose more probably Oregon.

We have also been told that Co$ has been in touch with his family or relatives. To broker a deal?

Someone in Oregon (or LA?) should look into the family business. There are a lot of Majorskis in the book. But don't for Xenu's sake encourage them to post here.

Tinfoil or not, would it be surprising if this was a conspiracy at some point? It would surprise me if it wasn't. Has anything changed since 5 December whenever it was? The all-round deep silence speaks for itself.

AnonyMary

Have you read this thread? I believce this PI made such a stink of what I posted that she got my nic banned from posting to ARS via Google groups:
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My take on all this is that I suspect Mario's relationship with his exwife or current wife ( maybe one he had a child with?) or child itself is the reason behind why he went to CCint that day. I also believe that the silence on what happened is in part due to the fact that the wife/exwife works with cult celeb Jason Lee on that show.

It's a tragedy all around. Mario seems to have become pretty messed up by the L he did, just as Jason Beghe said the L's will do to people. But that is not the whole story. He was a trained & classed auditor and helped CCHR at one time and I suspect that there was an issue of disconnected loved ones still being in the cult and that was at the heart of what drove him that day.

Relyt

In order for this to ring as a conspiracy, he would have to have had a clean, or rather petty criminal record that didn't show signs of insanity. If the cops confirming the self-defense over watching the security tapes wasn't enough, I'd say that his criminal record really puts the final nail in the coffin.

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I can't wait to see how Herro twists this one!

Anonymoux

Have *we* seen any reference to Mario's children? This is news to me and I hope he left no children but would like to know for sure. Maybe an obit in the oregonian...

Anonymoux

that's exactly what the police found.

however, there are many questions that remain...like any calls just prior to shooting and when 911 call was made. other contact from him. communications that may have been sent between legal and guards. more on security guard. conflict with witness statement. what are the ties between LAPD NE division and CC? Was there any conflict of interest in the investigation?

had Mario's pic been posted at any orgs? how did the gun get there--was the shooter out there (no back and forth inside and out, no delivery of gun from inside), armed and then shot? or, was the fun or shooter called from inside? exactly what do those "swords" look like?

certainly, the police findings will stand. but that does not mean that all is settled.
we need to know more about how this happened and what moxon had to do with it.
because YOU KNOW HE HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT.

i guess i should find out if the report is available to the public.

Anonymoux

ps: it's possible that bad psycho guys get murdered. i'm not saying that about mario, but about crime in general. just because one is paranoid does not mean one is not being followed and all that...

MrNiceNice

Conspiracy. No.

What was 'evidence' and what was 'personal property'? Who retained what and then... who released what to whom? Whatever. If his stuff was released
it would of had to be signed for by NOK.
Doubt he left a note. Too crazy to know it was a one way trip.
either/neither you're chasing smoke.

I'd love to know what det. Berndt pulled out of the drivers side door pocket.
& then she put it back.

YMMV

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reznik

why ask for evidence?
Speculating is more fun.

I think Moxon *KNEW* Mario was coming to the org that day. I think Moxon organized for a lethal combination of LSD and katanajuice to be "slipped into his food", or maybe into his toothpaste - and swords were placed in his car. Moxon had probably spent a few months instructing a high level Scientology Exec in target practice. And then told the exec he *HAD* to shoot Mario or he would be sent to the RPF 4EVER.

Poor Mario. None of this is his fault.