BigButterJesus

MY XENU, no wonder Mario had to declare bankruptcy two times. I cannot believe people PAID FOR THIS SHIT. (sorry..but..)

HubbardyCupboardy

This, seriously.

pooks

I'd be interested in seeing that sauce.

WTF

L's are today available to Grade IV and higher, with certain restrictions at points of the upper bridge known as "non interference" zones.

It may be interesting to look back at copies of older bridges--at one time grades auditing was delivered after Clear or dianetics completion. Grades auditing today is still delivered to Clears in certain cases.




Namaste,

AlphOhm

skidmark

I believe this is the sauce.


It's mainly about behavior modification in children who showing signs of RAD, PTSD, EAD, ADHD/ODD, et al. A chapter towards the back is on the affects on parents and therapists from working with children with extreme behaviors and children who have gone through extreme abuse. I don't have the book on me, otherwise, I'd find you an actual quote.

onewhogets

Donation rates/Source Issue 196
Sliding Scale for the L's:
1 intensive=12,000.00
2 intensive=23,250.00
3 intensives=33,000.00
4 intensives=42,000.00
6 intensives=58,000.00
8 intensives=72,000.00
12 intensives=99,000.00
Prices valid through Dec. 31, 2007 according to the mag's small print at the bottom

skidmark

Good article on PTSD, secondary PTSD and trauma that can induce it. Also, on a google search, there were quite a few articles on people who had PTSD after the 9/11 attacks simply from sitting in front of the TV for days on end. Any sort of prolonged exposure or conversation of abuse, disaster, or any frightening event can trigger PTSD events.

Post Traumatic Stress Disorder

pooks

Thanks for this and the other reference in your post below

Still Alive

Can you get a scan of this? Someone needs this information in the Fact Check thread here: Fact Check: ESG took L-11s

Thanks.

oijwqeioriojfij

I would be willing to help with the cross checking.

Is there a full list of corpses at whyaretheydead or is that incomplete?

oijwqeioriojfij

Wow why are they dead is going to be kind of nasty to parse out.

I did find a list posted in 2003 that will be a little easier to use but not current. FACTNet Message Board: ***Scientology's Casualty List***

Any suggestions?

Of course there might not be an exhaustive list. This may be the time to compile one.

onewhogets

Have the mag-Source Issue 196 with the "Donation " chart good through Dec. 31, 2007
Hate to be stupid, but tell me how to scan it and insert it.

Vir

Do you have a scanner? If not, do you have a digital camera?

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onewhogets

Have scanner. Scanned to my doc.. now what?

BlooAnon

In the Jason Beghe interview, the first mention of Ls is at 52:45.

But didn't really get into the discussion of Ls until 1:01:45 talking about L10 and where it "really fucked me up".

I'm watching the interview again (cause I have nothing better to do right now). I'll post again if he talks about them again, but I don't think he elaborates on them much more.


Edit: No, no more mention of them. And it was a very brief few sentences about them.

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Vir

Save as image (JPEG file maybe) and upload to an image host such as http://imageshack.us or http://bayimg.com/

Then paste the image link in a comment.

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onewhogets

onewhogets

Issue 196 Donation list
bayimg - image: Issue 196 Donation chart.jpg - free uncensored image hosting

Vir

Not related to L11, but to ASHO LA in 2004: http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-l...e-318-a-32509/

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ryangiggs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vir
When is that from?

If the L-rundowns were only for those above Grade IV back when Grade IV was the grade before SOLO and CLEAR, then maybe the L-rundowns these days too only are offered to those who are above Grade VI?

L's are today available to Grade IV and higher, with certain restrictions at points of the upper bridge known as "non interference" zones.

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It may be interesting to look back at copies of older bridges--at one time grades auditing was delivered after Clear or dianetics completion. Grades auditing today is still delivered to Clears in certain cases.

WTF

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Could the following be relevant to what is being discussed here?

(Note: Would need WASHINGTON DC anons to follow up FAST before the scilons get there first)

1992 Technical specialist course
"Auditor course." book
Rundowns?

Item Details:-
Technical specialist course [WorldCat.org]

Washington DC, Library of Congress holding:-
[WorldCat.org]


1989 Hubbard false purpose rundown auditor course lectures
by L Ron Hubbard (audio cassette)

Item Details:-
Hubbard false purpose rundown auditor course lectures [WorldCat.org]

Washington DC, Library of Congress holding:-
[WorldCat.org]