Major Boyle

The past couple of protest at the Montreal org have had a number of Scilons coming out to talk to the protestors. This is not the usual aggressive bullbaiting stuff, but things like "Do you believe in freedom of religion?" and all sorts of mild fail confront.

I realize that the Scis who are doing this are getting a star, or a cookie or some sort of little reward next to their name so that the org's stats look good "This week, we had 10 confronts against SPs". But what's the point of such weak tactics?

If bullbaiting isn't going to make us go away then asking if they can take our picture isn't going to be making a difference. Is Miscavige and his OSA goon squad really that clueless as to how ineffective this stuff is?

Can any of the EXes explain this to me, because it's a little bit like watching a chihuahua trying to bite a passing tank. Funny, but WTF?

Anonymous

LOL

They are trying to "handle" you and doing it wrong per their own crap.

Dissem Drill fail

http://www.scientology-lies.com/node/11142

themadhair

I’ve nothing to base this on but I suspect this is a continuation of something I suspect has been going on for quite a while. Different areas are trying different tricks to try and find one that works. What you have experienced may simply be one such attempt to find something that works.

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Major Boyle

I'll tell you what would drive me away from the protests. Scientologists doing the bunny hop while wearing nothing but mankinis and singing "I'll make love to you" by Boyz 2 Men. Srsly.

On a lighter note, has anything the cult EVER done succeeded in driving Anonymous away? Every time they try something stupid it only increases our RAAAAGE and then we're back for moar.

Fail cult is fail.

13Heathens

^ "That's entirely subjective. So I feel people should be free to promote religions based on hate, discrimination, or genocidal ideologies? Certainly not. With freedom comes the responsibility to not infringe on the freedoms of others in the process"

hehehe creative answers can be fun!

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ChronicEnturbulator

I would agree with you, IF Scientology was actually a religion...

**zero**

Although we know better, I imagine that they have seen our numbers from last feb, and how they have changed over time. To us, numbers never have mattered. However, some may be thinking that ANY form of confront will work.

Of course there are those that know better, but to them, they believe that what they are doing is getting rid of us, and their proof is our numbers. Now that we have reached a steady number with some coming and going, I believe that their confront tactics and how they have previously thought of them have been rethought. However, this to us is a joke, and we really don't care what they do, because we will still be at their doorstep, no matter what they have to say on the matter.

Suzette

They just send people out there and tell them to "handle" you without giving them any idea of how to handle you, or what it means to handle someone. So if they send out someone who's a reasonable human being (aside from being confused and brainwashed) he asks you reasonable questions. If they send out someone who's so indoctrinated that he thinks bullbaiting has some purpose, he bullbaits you. I guess the plan is to get Anon to punch someone so they can have you arrested. Of course this hasn't worked so far, and the net result is hilarious vids on Youtube. The pictures they will just hang onto in case they ever want them, so it doesn't matter who takes them.

anon555

answer: absolutely and 'pay to pray' is an abomination to the concept of 'freedom of religion'

psychoutcults

Nice one!

exOT8Michael

One of the best zingers ever...
:)

Stay on target.
And enjoy the lulz, caek and wins.

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basil

Ironically, it's reverse psychology. We expect them to confront violently (John Sweeney styleeee) so when they come out calmly and ask us questions like that, we're supposed to not know how to respond, and break down our resolve.

Unfortunately, you know as well as I do, that it doesn't actually work. It's the same way that all their front groups work - "Do you believe in human rights?" = support for YHRI, "Do you believe in helping drug addicts" = Narconon etc.

Most people would say that yes, they do believe in these things - and thus appear to lend their support to Scientology - except, of course, Scientology isn't actually supporting these things except a) to make themselves look good and mainstream and build credibility, and b) to infiltrate legitimate groups so that Scientology policy can influence things.

These sort of comebacks such as "yes I believe in freedom of religion, but religion is free and Scientology is neither" does somewhat knock the stuffing out of their argument.

Think, practice, and have answers ready. It is inevitable that Scientology will end up failing in these arguments, but that's part of the fun of engaging face-to-face rather than yelling "lolxenu" at them - it might just open up some sort of reasoned thinking that's been surpressed away.

Funnily enough, what Scientology terms "the reactive" mind is never actually gotten rid of, it's just surpressed by the brainwashing, and in the same way that things surpress it, it can be reactivated and once they start to think "hang on, what if this guy is actually right?" all sorts of wonderful things can happen.

JohnnyRUClear

FTR, the word is "suppress".

Also, I agree: intelligent answers will likely (re?)stimulate more thought processes than pure lulz. Never lose the lulz though.

Psychiatry works, and it helps people.

FUCK

nice ^_^

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ultrapoet

THIS!

Matthew 5:44
The Metta Sutta
HCO Policy Letter 18 October 1967

Which one of these is not like the others?

Lightattheendofthetunnel

Scientologists are cowardly sheep. "Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah"

ArnieLerma

They used to try this with me.

They will stop doing this stuff when they start to suffer losses - that is, from the exposure to the information you discuss with them, they start losing members.

They would send out some old time scientologist who had been in for years to handle me.. I would then being to deprogram him... try to get him to consider alternative explanations for his belief that "Scientology Works"

I found that discussing hypnosis, TR0 Hypnosis and the slight endorphin increase due to electricity of the e-meter was most effective. Also telling them about Volney Mathison's creative image therapy - which predated scientology ( and was stolen by Hubbard )

After I started doing that they stopped sending folks out to chat with me.

I assumed that was because the ones I spoke to LEFT.

More information:

Tips for Breaking the Trance LINK
E-meter LINK
Hypnosis LINK
Volney Mathison LINK

Any contact they are willing to have should be used for deprogramming efforts. Always try to deprogram the clam in front of yah..

Deprogramming Tips

Nota Bene: When you impart information that incites doubt, relize that when that volunteer goes back into the org he debriefs and does a write up, that gets sent up lines... so the information reaches more people inside (though mostly just the crooks whose natural ethical standards were suitable for OSA/GO), There are not that many of them left and they tend to talk to each other...

"I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speake" link
What I know about Scientology's tax exemption link
Who is this guy? link

ArnieLerma

and re religion, print out THIS PAGE and hand it to them...

"I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speake" link
What I know about Scientology's tax exemption link
Who is this guy? link

anonsoldier

^THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS!!!!

The best part about them engaging us is they open their members up to facing the reality that we're not evil terrorists bent on whatever they claim we're bent on. They're probably thinking "okay, you're a Clear, you can confront and shatter these evil SPs suppression" and what they get out of us is "oh hai! How r u? U lik kittehs?"

Plus, those who are good at it can start the reactivation of the reactive mind, get them to start thinking and questioning. Like Arnie said, it ended up backwards, he confronted and shattered THEM and they stopped sending people out. I'd bet they don't think we're capable of doing that, and if anything our smaller numbers are lulling them into a sense of power we can exploit.

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Herro

There's really no reason to debate whether or not scientology is a religion with the handlers. Because, it is a religion. But more importantly it doesn't matter whether or not it's a religion. All that matters are the things that the Church of Scientology has done. It is being called to be accountable for its actions, not it's beliefs.

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