An0nand0n

So, I finally got a reply from the ASA regarding the complaint I made to them in March (http://forums.whyweprotest.net/7-gen...ime-only-6490/) .
Docs:

Side 1:

Side 2:

OK, well, I've got this *great new product*, An0nand0ns magjick snake oil. Cures all known forms of Cancer. Honest. I really believe it does. I'm going to market it aggressively at people who might have cancer as a legitimate cancer treatment using my magjick cancer test. Of course these people are somehow meant to know that An0nand0ns magjick snake oil and cancer test aren't highly regarded by the medical profession. Think I'll get very far? /rant.

This reply is a pile of shite. According to the ASAs code of conduct (http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/codes/cap_code/):

Claims must be substantiated (The CAP Code - Detail). So it doesn't matter what the opinions and beliefs of the church of scientology are.

They must be honest (The CAP Code - Detail)
This propaganda is neither. I'm trying to get my hands on their other piece of propaganda, the mini newspaper they hand out. I think it's even worse. Will post pics asap.

An ASA investigation would be epic fucking win. Imagine: Stress test: BANHAMMERED. Main Scilon recruitment tool: gone. Stat crash of epic proportions. But it's a numbers game. The ASA is not going to act on a single complaint.

So, UK Anons, if you can spare a few minutes, MAN THE FUCKING HARPOONS FFS! Complaints go here: Complaints Step 1. It's all confidential so you can use your real name. Also, the original complaint was sent before the suicide of Kaja Bordevich Ballo (Police probe suicide linked to Scientologists). Let them know all about it.

Good luck.

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DeathHamster

Previously, the ASA smacked Scientology for their Narconon claims:
Cult church censured on drug ads March 27, 2003, Stephen Bates, Guardian Unlimited
Advertising Standards Authority record of successful Church of England complaint about Narconon advertisement

The Church of England Diocese of Birmingham doesn't seem to like Scientology:
Church anger at 'cult' space April 24, 2004, James Cartledge, Evening Mail, Birmingham Post
Church of stars set for city July 21, 2005, Jon Griffin, Evening Mail, Birmingham Mail
"[..] as much a religion as a dog is a vegetable"

If the IJC blows, who is terminal?

Anne Ominous

Harpoon'd.

I LOVE AXIOMS!!

pooks

ASA letter States:


"Although the number of complaints we receive is by no means the main factor we consier it can be part of the picture in cases like this. We haven't been contacted by anyone else about this ad, which doesn't seem to suggest the wider auidience reacted in the same way. We will of course continue to monitor any further reaction"


Seems to me more complaints are in order. Please repost the information on where
to send the complaints about this ad.

Patty

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BorisAnyonymous

Okay. Read between the lines.

That reply sounds like a genuine apology that their hands are tied over this thus far. The penultimate paragraph is also an open invitation to get more people to raise complaints about the issue.

So, harpoons. Serious fucking harpoons. Man them.

TLDR - We wish we could stop the fuckers. Write to us moar and we may be able to.

SovietV

THIS^
plz, to where and what do I write!

ALL UR OSSETIA, ARE BELONG TO US

An0nand0n

I hope you're right, BorisAnonymous. Anyway, harpoons. Take Aim... Fire!

Here is exactly how to do it.

Complaints go to the ASA online complaints form: Complaints Step 1

The complaints form has 7 steps, to be filled out thusly:

Step 1.

They ask for your name, address etc- fill it out, this is all kept confidential.

Step 2.

You are not complaining on behalf of a company or organisation.

Step 3.

Type of advertisment: leaflet.

Where and when did you see the leaflet: When was the last time you saw a scilon handing these things out? example: Outside the Dianetics centre, Tottenham court road, 5th May 2008.

Or you could tell them you saw it here but I don't know how well they'd take that. It's up to you what you tell them.

Step 4.

Who were the advertisers and what were they advertising?

Who? The Church of Scientology

What? The Oxford Capacity Analysis test

Step 5.

Your Complaint (There is a 5000 character limit).

Example: What I wrote in my original complaint (probably NOT suitable as copypasta)

The Oxford Capacity Analysis test is offered as a means of measuring IQ, personality and aptitude. It is not a scientifically valid measure of these traits, but is instead is a recruitment tool designed to give anyone who takes it poor results on at least one trait. These results are then used to aggressively market Scientology services.

This was shown to be the case by research conducted for the Foster Report to the UK government (Enquiry into the Practice and Effects of Scientology 1971). I have supplied full details of these findings and more in the PDF along with pictures of the leaflet.

Furthermore, the test has been offered free in this country since at least the 1960s and it is their principal recruitment tool, so the veracity of their claim that it will be available for a limited time is questionable.

Thank you for your time,

Name

More things that need to be covered:

Test linked to suicide of Kaja Bordevich Ballo (see Police probe suicide linked to Scientologists)

ASA code of conduct states any claims made for the thing being advertised must be substantiated: The CAP Code - Detail

It also says The claims must be honest and "should not exploit the credulity, lack of knowledge or inexperience of consumers": The CAP Code - Detail

The case Deathhamster dug up- a complaint about their narconon advertising was upheld by the ASA in 2003: see Cult church censured on drug ads | UK news | The Guardian and ASA Non-broadcast Adjudication: Church of Scientology.

If that's not enough, a poster on OCBM suggested that just about every scn practice from the stress test up could be criminalised by new EU consumer protection legislation: Operation Clambake Message Board :: View topic - New legislation to end spiritual/religious fakery in EU?

step 6
Do you have a copy (or the original) of the advertisement?

Yes you do. Here it is: Leaflet only.pdf

Attach it.

Step 7.
Privacy

Untick the SPAM ME NAO box.

????????

PROFIT!

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An0nand0n is win.

I LOVE AXIOMS!!

SovietV

Right, well I have one of their oxford testy leaflet things, with the Manchester org address on it. So I'll scan that up tomorow. And begin harpooning.

Can the hivemind help me with delicious copypasta that I can send them?

ALL UR OSSETIA, ARE BELONG TO US

BorisAnyonymous

Thank you very much for that, my good man/woman/xenumorph. Excellent work.

SovietV

[00:07:38] <Close> I don't have an enturb account
[00:07:38] <Close> someone tell http://forums.whyweprotest.net/7-gen...59/#post228052
[00:07:46] <Close> that the oxford capacity test wasn't developed in oxford
[00:07:51] <Close> thats clear misrepresentation

ALL UR OSSETIA, ARE BELONG TO US

Relyt

Quite different from the United States. Over here, one person complaining = 100 people complaining. One person expressing concern = 50 people filing lawsuits.

timthephoto

is an official email from the scions saying there are no plans to introduce more "fixed donations" especially for beginner assesment...

just a thought, don't know how you'd get them to foot bullet that good

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An0nand0n

Good going BorisAnonymous, Anne Ominous, DeathHamster and SovietV.

OK, copypasta. This is probably best personalised or used sparingly, as individually distinct replies may do more good than mass spamming, but any reply is better than none.

DEELISHUS COPYPASTA:

The Oxford Capacity Analysis test is offered as a means of measuring IQ, personality and aptitude. The ASA guidelines state that any claims made for a product or service being advertised must be honest and “should not exploit the credulity, lack of knowledge or inexperience of consumers” (CAP general rules 6.1). They also state that the claims made must be honest and “should not exploit the credulity, lack of knowledge or inexperience of consumers” (CAP general rules 3.1). Both these rules are being broken here as the Oxford Capacity Analysis test is not a scientifically valid measure of these traits, but is instead is a recruitment tool designed to give anyone who takes it poor results on at least one trait. These results are then used to aggressively market Scientology services. This was shown to be the case by research conducted for the Foster Report to the UK government (Enquiry into the Practice and Effects of Scientology 1971- see xenu.net/archive/audit/fosthome.html).

That the results of the test can be taken seriously by naïve members of the public has been shown tragically by the recent death of Kaja Bordevich Ballo. She was a young woman who had a history of mental health problems in her early teens. She commited suicide on March 28th of this year hours after completing one of these tests, the results of which were described by her family as being “devastating” (see aftenposten.no/english/local/article2371180.ece , en.wikinews.org/wiki/Girl_commits_suicide_after_taking_Scientology_pers onality_test and religionnewsblog.com/21183/scientology-kaja-bordevich-ballo.

Furthermore, the test has nothing to do with any institution in Oxford, and has been offered free in this country since at least the 1960s and it is their principal recruitment tool, so the veracity of their claim that it will be available for a limited time is questionable. As you may be aware, the Church of Scientology has a history of misleading advertising, indeed the Advertising Standards Agency censured a series of adverts they produced in 2003 to promote their drugs rehabilitation programme Narconon (asa.org.uk/asa/adjudications/non_broadcast/Adjudication+Details.htm?adjudication_id=35676).

Thank you for your time,

Name

Anyone care to improve or elaborate?

Also, does anyone have any idea how we can get this out to more UK Anons? Would it be worth putting links in the local protest threads, maybe just after the 10th when the ones for June are starting up? Would people just disregard them as spam or a NYPA job? I've cross linked to OCBM, are there any other websites?

Tired now, going to bed.

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JohnB2008

Anyone got a copy of the original PDF - it has been removed:

Ebeneezer_Goode

Update:

This is one of the easiest things I've done and it has brought results! Thank you OP!!!



According to the letter, Scientology claim they will change their leaflet (found here):
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Now I am assuming the cult have promised they will change it, but actually they won't, because they think they are above the law.

Your mission, if you choose to accept it:

Obtain an unchanged copy fresh from the cult after 17 December 2008 when the list of resolved complaints is published.

Then we complain again.

If Scientology do in fact keep their word (ha ha) then this has cost the cult money as they will have to trash hundreds of old leaflets. If not, at least it has cost them time.


Key phrase in my complaint letter that made it go through:

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Scientology is a cult; in fact, a dangerous cult. Scientologists, grab a clue.

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NoMoreDiscoNnects

Awesome. Well done.

Vir

Win.

Will be fun to see what they put in instead.

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BorisAnyonymous

Good soldier.

Not the ex-CIA bloke, so please stop PMing me to ask whether I was on the grassy knoll, or whether I can help with your homework project on the right to bear arms and arm bears, or the rest of the stupid conspiracy shit everyone seems to want to bug that poor guy with.

Gentlemen

Chiropactors, nutritionists and homeopaths have been pulling this shit for years, Which is my pet hatred, (probably more then scientology because more people believe in it) I'll gladly write a letter and encourage anti-quack campainers to do the same.


EDIT: Disregard that I suck cocks
Didn't read whole thread. Anon prevails