exOT8Michael

Scientology and the death of Jett Travolta.

The news of the tragic death of Jett Travolta today is a sad event indeed.
My sincere condolences go to the whole family and I hope they can somehow eventually turn this situation into something positive in the medium-long term. Life has ways of bringing the sunshine back after dark clouds have lifted.

For those fans and media who will be trying to come to a real understanding of what will happen with the John Travolta, Kelly Preston and Scientology with regard to this, I can offer some educated guesses based on a very long term (24 years) devoted experience and membership in Scientology. [NOTE: I left Scientology in 1997 after severe "irreconcilable differences" prevented me from wanting to continue, so I am not a proponent of Hubbard or of Scientology now. Indeed, I sued Scientology for fraud and other matters in 1998, but my extensive experiences of how things work in the cult are still intact and I doubt that Scientologists will be very open to providing such information to the media or public].

The vast majority of people will have no idea what this kind of thing will probably entail as far as Scientology style "follow up" is concerned.

Firstly, information about what the family is doing will most likely be curtailed or cut.
Scientology spokespeople will very likely give out generalized "press releases" through lawyers or PR personnel that will give no real substance for informing the public.

Secondly, the questions that have arisen about whether the anti-drug/anti-pharmaceutical tenets of Scientology might possibly have actually prevented Jett from receiving proper medical treatment or preventative assistance will be downplayed, denied, ridiculed and/or harshly criticized to try to get attention off the issue as fast as possible. This aspect, however, may not just "go away". It is a question of life or death, after all...

Thirdly, the family will very likely go to Clearwater, Florida (or maybe have Scientology professionals come to their Florida home, but this is far less likely) to the Oak Cove building and/or Sandcastle Hotel for what Scientology calls "handlings". These handlings will very likely entail the following;

0. Meeting with the staff member who deals with grieving people to cover physical details of a funeral and/or a memorial. Then those arrangements would be planned and carried out. The liaison would probably be done the current celebrity handler who would be a high ranking Sea Organization member.

1.Ethics interviews and associated procedures. (Scientology's "Division 1" services.)

This aspect of services would look into the unfortunate and tragic event of Jett's death being a possible result of some kind of personal ethics breach or lack of integrity by the parents. In particular the individual parents would have separate interviews about their own role in the tragedy or how come they "pulled in" (a Scientology ethics jargon term) such an awful situation by something in their own behavior.

The Scientology celebrity ethics officer would also actively look for one or more people in the Travoltas' circle of friends, acquaintances who might be antagonistic to or even anti-Scientology and who could have had sufficient negative influence to "cause" such a tragedy. That person would then be the target of possible disconnection (shunning), firing or lawsuit/fair game. There would be many steps possible for John and Kelly coming out of the "Ethics" handlings, and these could not be predicted here.

***It is worthy of note that the potential question of NOT giving proper or adequate medication would not be considered a Scientology ethics violation due to L.Ron Hubbard's indoctrination to avoid such medical or psychological types of treatment. In fact, the failure to give doctor-recommended drugs or medications to Jett might factually be considered to be a laudable Scientology ethics matter.***


2.Correction interviews and procedural steps (Scientology's "Division 5" services).

These steps, sometimes called "Review" would be services designed to address any failures of John or Kelly (and/or Jett's caretaker, as I believe he is a Scientologist) to have properly applied relevant Scientology technologies to their son or his living situation within the family. Any strictly Scientology-dictated ways of living that are detected as to having been omitted or misapplied would have to be re-studied and drilled till they become second nature.


3.Technical sessions ("auditing") (Scientology's "Division 4" services.

This would be some very expensive counseling sessions and personal programs designed to remove, if possible, all the negative emotions from this awful tragedy. This can cost up to $1000 an hour. The outcome of this step is varied in its success and can take weeks or months to complete.

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A more cynical prediction: I would also comfortably estimate that Scientology, as an organization, would attempt to get the maximum financial and public relations benefit from this horrible tragedy. It will be interesting to watch how they go about doing this. In any case the organization through its spokespeople will tend to avoid truth, responsibility and facts. It will also use the media without being of any real service to the media. Hubbard hated journalists almost as much as he hated psychologists, doctors and psychiatrists.

Michael Pattinson

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anongurl7

Thank you for this insiders perspective you suppressive person.

I think we need to see how the purification rundown effected him. Taking too much vitamin A can cause seizures and brain swelling right?

Hostile

not to mention that a poor diet during rundown can cause malnutrition and psychological effects...

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I guess they never fail to take the opportunity to make a hard sell.

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SPock Puppet

One can only hope that being subjected to such an absurdly cruel "ethics" regiment, will surely push the Travolta family into finally leaving their cult. What greiving family would tolerate that during what must be a period of sheer agony. Scientology is disgusting and its adherants need to wake the fuck up and its heirarchy needs to be criminally prosecuted. Politicians need to grow a pair and protect their constiuents!! Anonymous did all the hard work and now people can safely speak out against this bullshit. It's time to pull the plug on the tax exemption and let this bag of shit atrophy.

Hostile

my guess,

help us help john travolta in his time of crisis! Evil psychs can strike at any moment! come in for [name of course here] before it happens to you!

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Optimisticate

The scientology "process" sounds like emotional abuse and torture. This is awful.

Scientologists think they are being creative when calling in fake bomb threats. I am concerned that THEY are the ones with the bombs.

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FinalSummation

this event is proof that the most tragic victims of this cult is not the willing participants but those that are brought up without any say like jett. when in doubt get the fuck out.

anonymous90405

John Travolta got into the cult in a time of desperate loss and mourning. I believe he "joined" Scientology around the same time that he was seeing Diana Hyland, who subsequently lost her battle with breast cancer.

Michael - would any Scientologist go through these steps, or does it matter where you are on the bridge?

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ChurchOfCylontology

I was under the impression that celebrities, especially one of John Travolta's stature within the cult, received a very toned down version of the abusive 'tech'.....This sounds like adding gasoline and a lit cigarette to a 3rd degree burn.

I just don't understand how anyone could properly grieve through this expensive and pain inducing process. Michael, please comment more as to whether this whole process would or would not be toned down because of the celebrity aspect.

I don't see how any parent in that much pain could withstand this type of treatment.

DamOTclese

Scientology's "Purification Rundown" ritual contains toxic levels of niacine which is far more dangerous and deadly than Vitamin A.

What a nightmare for the parents. I hope they sue their cult leaders eventually -- for this and for all the money they were rooked and swindled out of.

Oh btw, I almost got run over by a Scientologist coming out of the parking lot -- Relyt
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DarthXenu

Michael, do you think this can be related in any way with DM no being at the New Years Event?

mrfyde

Also I have been away for a few hours do we know if Jett was being treated by scientologists in FL recently ?

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exOT8Michael

Thanks for the responses so far.
The process would not be toned down for a celebrity but they would be monitored several times daily for progress or upsets by the celebrity handler assigned to them.

Yep, I am still alive and kicking the cult's ass.
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exOT8Michael

I doubt it.

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anonymous90405

Michael - you missed mine!

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exOT8Michael

yes, I know about the high doses. I did the Purification thing back in 1979 when it first came out. It was touted as the solution to World War 3 at teh time (yes, seriously).
The radiation was supposed to be flushed out with niacin.

I had some temporary sickness and real physical paralysis while doing it due to the vitamins etc.
I had to take 10g (40 x 250mg tablets) of vitami B1 per day!! Stupidity was rampant as anything Hubbard told us to do was gospel, and we were told we could not survive WW3 without it.

Duhhhhhhhh.

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exOT8Michael

Any Scientologist would do the same steps but rich celebrities get the velvet glove treatment between sessions and handlings that ordinary members don't get.

Yep, I am still alive and kicking the cult's ass.
Still the only OT8 exposing Scientology's scam publicly.
My art: www.mpattinson.smugmug.com

exOT8Michael

tl;dr lol.

I cut it down b4 posting. I want to give the maximum facts and not skimp.

Yep, I am still alive and kicking the cult's ass.
Still the only OT8 exposing Scientology's scam publicly.
My art: www.mpattinson.smugmug.com