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03-10-2010

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ElenaP

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CANCER, SUICIDES AND SOLO NOTS

ANYONE SEEN THIS ON ESMB FORUM? MICHEL - CANCER AND SUICIDE ON SOLO NOTS - Ex Scientologist Message Board

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Hello! This thread is to answer Tommy Davis’s glibness.

I met Tommy during my second EPF in the Sea Org (actually a 2 months Boot Camp type of EPF), he was eating beans and rice every day, washing our clothes, doing the worst MEST work you can imagine, doing pumps up for hours...because he fucked up with a "VIP".

At that time he wasn’t so proud to be a Sea Org Member, I can tell you.

Now, let’s talk about cancer and suicide on Solo Nots. Here are some data for you guys.

There is a tag status for each Solo Nots auditor:

Green tag: audit 4 to 6 sessions daily and comes on time for his 6 months check.

Grey tag: audit less than 4 sessions daily and doesn't come on time for his 6 month check.

Orange tag: Not allowed to solo audit because of out ethics situation.

Purple tag: Not allowed to audit because of illness or sickness.

Black tag: Disaffected with the church.

See the way it works? One starts the level with a Green tag then, depending on his "ability to be Cause over Life" one keeps his Green tag or, follow the dwindling spiral to Black tag.

There are about 5,300 Solo Nots Auditors worldwide and about(depending on their current status):

1,000 Green tags
1,100 Grey tags
900 Orange tags
800 Purple tags
1,500 Black tags

The 10,000 on Solo Nots is just a dream. There is only 1,000 of them auditing regularly.

I was the D of P of, and personally met, the following Solo Nots Auditors. They were all with advanced cancer:

• Roberto Baldi – Italy
• Antonella Balma – Italy
• Beppe Guzzo – Italy
• Lisa Bragato – Italy
• Sonia Bragato – Italy
• Pierluigi Gobbi – Italy
• Maria Merlo – Italy
• Bernard Crausaz – Switzerland
• Jo Roberts - Switzerland
• Tasa Dojconovic – France
• Helene Meuley – France

Before I blew the Sea Org in November 2006,two of them died of committed suicide; Jo Roberts and Beppe Guzzo.

I don’t know if the other ones are still alive.

The majority of the 800 Purple tags and 1,500 Black tags are with cancer.

The majority of the Orange tags committed financial irregularities to be able to “pay for services and/or donations” to the Cult.

Rex Fowler is a typical Orange tag product of the Cult.

These data should be widely disseminated. It’ s not a joke. These guys are really in danger.

Michel.

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03-10-2010

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RightOn

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Re: CANCER, SUICIDES AND SOLO NOTS

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Originally Posted by ElenaP

ANYONE SEEN THIS ON ESMB FORUM? MICHEL - CANCER AND SUICIDE ON SOLO NOTS - Ex Scientologist Message Board

advanced cancer?
from the Freewinds by any chance?
wonder if all those people were on the Failwinds?

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03-10-2010

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Krautfag

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Re: CANCER, SUICIDES AND SOLO NOTS

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Originally Posted by RightOn

advanced cancer?
from the Freewinds by any chance?
wonder if all those people were on the Failwinds?

Hm..we need a medifag who has statistics on the usual cancer rate in the population.

And humm, if I know the cult rules right, Solo Nots is Auditing on OT 7 and up, and OT levels are sold on the ship, its very likely that they ALL were aboard the Freewinds.

Calling Doctor V: How many out of 5300 ppl would statistically get cancer?

03-10-2010

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RightOn

Tone 40

Re: CANCER, SUICIDES AND SOLO NOTS

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Originally Posted by Krautfag

Maybe Michel knows if these people were on the Freewinds?
• Roberto Baldi – Italy
• Antonella Balma – Italy
• Beppe Guzzo – Italy
• Lisa Bragato – Italy
• Sonia Bragato – Italy
• Pierluigi Gobbi – Italy
• Maria Merlo – Italy
• Bernard Crausaz – Switzerland
• Jo Roberts - Switzerland
• Tasa Dojconovic – France
• Helene Meuley – France

03-10-2010

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Krautfag brainzzzzz	Re: CANCER, SUICIDES AND SOLO NOTS We shall see.

03-10-2010

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Rockyj

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Re: CANCER, SUICIDES AND SOLO NOTS

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This is a message to you if you are a Scientologist. And that is under no circumstances should you ever set foot on the Freewinds because it is loaded with deadly blue asbestos. Tons of the stuff and it is in its most deadly dangerous state - dry and flaking. The stuff lines every ceiling as well as a number of walls, It is the stuff on the ceiling that is the most deadly. It is cased in with ceiling tiles nut they have gaps between them. When the ship vibrates (which is common) deadly blue asbestos dust is sprinkled through the gaps and the finest fibres will be suspended in the air. These fibers will be breathed into the lungs of anyone on board. They are so small the lungs do not filter them out.

Scientology --- Blue asbestos on the Freewinds

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Asbestos has been classified as a known human carcinogen (a substance that causes cancer) by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, the EPA, and the International Agency for Research on Cancer (2, 3, 7, 8). Studies have shown that exposure to asbestos may increase the risk of lung cancer and mesothelioma (a relatively rare cancer of the thin membranes that line the chest and abdomen). Although rare, mesothelioma is the most common form of cancer associated with asbestos exposure. In addition to lung cancer and mesothelioma, some studies have suggested an association between asbestos exposure and gastrointestinal and colorectal cancers, as well as an elevated risk for cancers of the throat, kidney, esophagus, and gallbladder (3, 4). However, the evidence is inconclusive.

Asbestos Exposure and Cancer Risk - National Cancer Institute

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03-10-2010

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ElenaP

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Re: CANCER, SUICIDES AND SOLO NOTS

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Originally Posted by RightOn

advanced cancer?
from the Freewinds by any chance?
wonder if all those people were on the Failwinds?

Michel says this about the reason of getting cancer = Thousands of hours of auditing with emeter. MICHEL - SOLO NOTS DESTRUCTION! - Page 6 - Ex Scientologist Message Board

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Searcher Again
Thanks for the post Michel.

I won't go into details but it now explains a lot of just what is happing on Solo NOTS with Pre-Ots and Solo NOTS CSs.

I simply don't know what to say.

You can hang onto the cans with the meter turned on doing nothing and eventually you will key out. Try it if you think it's a joke.

To bad, glad I'm out.
Hello Searcher Again! I know, it's not a joke. Actually, the low current generated by the e-meter stimulates the pituitary gland and this releases endorphins which, in turn, creates a feeling of exhilaration. I think that people becomes addict to this exhilaration....addict to death!

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03-10-2010

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Rockyj

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Location: Pacific NW USA

Re: CANCER, SUICIDES AND SOLO NOTS

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In April 2008, the Freewinds was sealed, and work stopped on refurbishments, due to "extensive contamination" with blue asbestos.[6] As of June 2009 its DNV listing states that the ship is "in operation".[7] 19 June 2009 she was in Saint Kitts beginning her 21st year of Caribbean cruisingFreewinds - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is this true? Did they remove the asbestos?

A list needs to be created of all the $cientologists who have died from cancer or have cancer, and if they were on the Freewind (& how long), before & after the discovery of the asbestos.
This info must have been talked about before, if so why hasn't anyone done anything?
Big time Class Action Suit!

03-10-2010

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RightOn

Tone 40

Re: CANCER, SUICIDES AND SOLO NOTS

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Originally Posted by Rockyj

this is actually old news
there has been alot on this subject.

There is a list of all the people who have been on the Freewinds floating around somewhere

03-10-2010

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Krautfag

brainzzzzz

Re: CANCER, SUICIDES AND SOLO NOTS

Okay here goes:

According to michel 60-70% of the ppl whose case folders were tagged purple or black suffered/are suffering from cancer.

Lets do the numbers:

5300 Solo Nots Auditors overall. NOTS = New Era Dianetics for Operating Thetans, so we are talking about OTs

2200 of them purple/black tagged.

65% out of 2200 = 1430

1430 ouf of 5300 = 26,98%

Now, who or what is a Solo Nots Auditor?

NOTs Scholars Home Page (Scientology)

"New OT VII is the Solo NOTs Auditors Course. This level can take years. The pre-OT examines himself for BTs and clusters, expecting most of them to blow by inspection. For those that don't, the various NOTs auditing techniques are applied -- telepathically, of course."

So, about ONE EFFIN FOURTH of all OT 7s have cancer. I doubt that one fourth of the general populace in the western world suffers from that.

Freewinds delivers OT 8 which hasnt got to do with Solo Nots, so that juicy connection will sadly not work.

03-10-2010

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Anonymous

We Are Legion

Re: CANCER, SUICIDES AND SOLO NOTS

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Originally Posted by Rockyj

here's an article on the Freewinds that was on the other thread

Glosslip Exclusive: Scientology Cruise Ship Freewinds Hides Asbestos Danger - Technorati Glosslip

03-10-2010

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Krautfag

brainzzzzz

Re: CANCER, SUICIDES AND SOLO NOTS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krautfag

Freewinds delivers OT 8 which hasnt got to do with Solo Nots, so that juicy connection will sadly not work.

Or maybe it does....

Michel reminded me that in 1996 on the arrival of GAT DM ordered all "old OT 7s and old OT8s" to Flag to redo the "new" Solo Nots and then retrain OT 7 and OT 8, so despite my earlier post it is absolutly possible that all these people have been on the Freewinds.

We really need some fag with medical statistics now.

03-10-2010

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KillerCat

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Re: CANCER, SUICIDES AND SOLO NOTS

The worldwide incidence (=numbers of new cases per 100000 persons) of cancer was around 600 in the year 2000 (=0,6%). In other words 10 million new cases each year.

Ca. 6,2 million die due to cancer each year (2000 numbers)

12% of all dead (and sick) people died due to cancer.

In summary, the chance to get cancer is definitly much higher for SciFags!

(no surprise considering the "therapy" for radiation : smoking. heavy smoking)

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03-10-2010

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RightOn

Tone 40

Re: CANCER, SUICIDES AND SOLO NOTS

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Originally Posted by KillerCat

AND the Freewinds

03-10-2010

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Anonymous We Are Legion	Re: CANCER, SUICIDES AND SOLO NOTS After 100 afterlife Scilons surveyed... bing- 56% died of advanced untreated cancers. bing- 20% died of malnutrition bing- 15% forgot how to swallow bing- the others.....

03-10-2010

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Random guy

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Re: CANCER, SUICIDES AND SOLO NOTS

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Originally Posted by Krautfag

Okay here goes:
So, about ONE EFFIN FOURTH of all OT 7s have cancer. I doubt that one fourth of the general populace in the western world suffers from that.

These numbers are without value without knowing their age. In Scandnavia, where the life expectancy is generally high, about 25% of the poppulation is expected to die from (or with) cancer.

Tommy Davis is such a nice guy.
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03-10-2010

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ElectroPagan Anon

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Re: CANCER, SUICIDES AND SOLO NOTS

hmmmm...years of fucking around with one's nervous system via an e-meter and imagination.

Scilons are allowed to ingest nicotine...which is a mind altering drug....

Does this mean every Scilon who ingested it while auditing has to retread and at their own cost?

If so, DM will make millions, probably billions.

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I see OppTerm technology being used on some clueless people.

03-10-2010

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hotdog57

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Re: CANCER, SUICIDES AND SOLO NOTS

The reason the O T levels kill you or cause cancer...The best why to explane ? .
You are installing black magic into your mind ever day.. Or horrify your mind 2 or 3 hour a day..The pre O T think,s he is running out engrams or inplants ever day but he is not.
They have to re-live L Ron horrid sifi... of nightmares, forget the O T 3 junk...A solo auditor is trained for about 1 years before O T -1. then on O T 2 the night mares start via mind torture.
Afflict with great physical mental pain..ever day for years and years.

03-10-2010

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Krautfag

brainzzzzz

Re: CANCER, SUICIDES AND SOLO NOTS

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Originally Posted by KillerCat

Hm, I wonder with what number to go. A statistics person would prolly have a field day, I will just go along with the 12% overall number since I understand that one.

12% vs. 26,9%.

Someone should tell those sick OTs of that number. And everyone else who has done courses on the Freewinds.

03-10-2010

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Re: CANCER, SUICIDES AND SOLO NOTS

Wait - can we make sure that Michel knows that the ACT of auditing does not cause cancer, but smoking and not treating cancer will be sure to increase your chances that you will die from it.

We don't want any more medical conspiracy theories on our hands.

I'm just gonna come back into this post to reiterate:
Correlation does not equal causation (where auditing is concerned)
Untreated cancer, no medical care, smoking, those do show causation.

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