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Applied Scholastics no longer on approved list in 4 states

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  1. Anonymous Member

    Re: Applied Scholastics no longer on approved list in 4 states

    Massachusetts (as of 07/30/10) has AS on its approved SES providers list for 2010-2011.

    Massachusetts Department of Elementary and Secondary Education
    75 Pleasant Street

    Malden, MA 02148-4906
    Tel: (781) 338-3000

    Supplemental Educational Services (SES)
    Tel: (781) 338-6328; (781) 338-6276 (John Desses)
    E-mail: jdesses@doe.mass.edu
    sesproviders@doe.mass.edu

    Supplemental Educational Service Providers
  2. mefree Member

    Re: Applied Scholastics no longer on approved list in 4 states

    lol
  3. Anonymous Member

    Re: Applied Scholastics no longer on approved list in 4 states

    Filing complaints or concerns about Applied Scholastics with appropriate agencies and legislatures does work. Georgia briefly had AS on their SES list but complaints were filed:

    Ca. Officials Investigate Tutoring Firm's Links To Scientology Church - ventilpena.com

    AS was not there for 2009-2010 nor is it there for 2010-2011:

    http://public.doe.k12.ga.us/DMGetDo...7B25B06E48C23619FDE1EF8EA04E519007B7FF&Type=D

    or go to the Georgia Department of Education and punch in "Supplemental Educational Services" in the search slot.

    One of the concerns that could be cited is the efficacy/effectiveness of the AS program although in Georgia's case (and in some of the other states that have dropped AS), no reason was given why AS was dropped. Lack of utilization is another valid concern. Lack of credentialed teachers is another valid concern, especially if tutors are to work with ESL students or students with special needs.
  4. Anonymous Member

    Re: Applied Scholastics no longer on approved list in 4 states

    Kingsville, TX:

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  6. Anonymous Member

    Re: Applied Scholastics no longer on approved list in 4 states

    Thank you for that clarification. By "credentialed" what is meant is that the person has at least one teaching credential from their program of credentialing, under their state educational department.

    A suggestion that is being made to the current federal department of education as NCLB is being revised is that SES not only allow only credentialed teachers but that teachers with either a further credential in special education OR a credential that demonstrates training and mastery in teaching students who have English as a Second Language (ESL) or English Language Learners (ELL) be encouraged and receive the highest hourly pay.

    SES was conceived, partly, to assist low testing students in high-risk, low performing schools and the data is clear that students with special needs (primarily learning disabled) and students who are ESL/ELL can have great difficulty in school and with the current NCLB testing program. And that teachers that are trained in these areas have the best overall success rate, as measured by both quantitative (scores, attendance, graduation) and qualitative (self-esteem, positive attitude) measures.

    The published peer-reviewed studies from 2008 and 2009 did not demonstrate that the current SES program worked for the students, in the majority of cases, although there was some progress noted for some students with some of the established national tutoring programs. These programs only used credentialed teachers.
  7. Anonymous Member

    Re: Applied Scholastics no longer on approved list in 4 states

    Two years ago, AS was on the approved SES lists of 14 states. As of Aug. 30, 2010, it is now on the 2010-2011 approved lists of only 7 states: Illinois, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Missouri, Tennessee, Texas and Washington and there is considerable questions about the numbers of students actually attending AS classes. Several states who have dropped AS from the SES lists have stated that lack of utilization was on the main reasons.

    Neither Indiana nor New Mexico have reported their 2010-2011 SES approved provider lists. Indiana has an interesting caution of their SES web-site:

    Indiana SES>State Approved Supplemental Service Provider List

    "PLEASE NOTE: A provider’s placement on the state approved SES provider list should not be construed as an endorsement of the provider by the Indiana Department of Education. SES providers are not employed by Indiana Department of Education and do not hold any contracts with the Indiana Department of Education. SES providers are paid by school districts only for services rendered by providing tutoring to eligible students. Placement on the state approved SES provider list is not a guarantee of payment, funding, or selection by parents."

    **************************************************************************

    Education Week: Senate Report Hints at a Definition for What Works

    At this time, the new iteration of NCLB is being addressed. The Senate is defining how to determine what works in Title 1 programs in terms of improved student learning. It appears that the SES "tutoring programs" will fall under the heading of programs requiring functional evidence of efficacy.

    Please feel free to contact the Senators serving on the Senate Education Committee and the Senate Appropriations Committee as well as the Representatives serving on the House Education and Labor Committee about this matter.
  8. RightOn Member

  9. Anonymous Member

    Re: Applied Scholastics no longer on approved list in 4 states

    And in addition to the other great wins this week, AS is being ignored by informed parents. See above posts. The Internet is working.
  10. Lorelei Member

    Re: Applied Scholastics no longer on approved list in 4 states

    It's like an avalanche, slowly gathering speed, and getting larger and larger.
  11. xenubarb Member

    Re: Applied Scholastics no longer on approved list in 4 states

    The hits just keep coming in all sectors! I wonder what kind of lies they'll be telling at the IAS event this year...hehehe. Probably lots of "expansion" in third world countries happy that anyone is bothering to take an interest in them.
  12. Re: Applied Scholastics no longer on approved list in 4 states

    Thx 4 the 411
    Very disappointed to see Massachusetts on the list. This will be a pet project of mine now. I have quite a few family members who are teachers, or work in education. They will NOT be amused.
  13. TinyDancer Member

    Re: Applied Scholastics no longer on approved list in 4 states

    I <3 this thread.
  14. Anonymous Member

  15. Anonymous Member

    Re: Applied Scholastics no longer on approved list in 4 states

    So let's analyze this:

    Applied Scholastics out; PedoBear in?
  16. Anonymous Member

    Re: Applied Scholastics no longer on approved list in 4 states


    Need to clear up a small technicality of this poster's definition. ^

    A person can possess a teaching credential, meaning they took an approved path of coursework to learn how to teach a particular topic area, but that doesn't mean they possess a teaching license or certificate from a state's Department of Education, which they are required to have to teach in any public school within the US. A credential is closer in definition to a diploma than to a license.

    Licensing requirements differ among the states, however there are two requirements across the board: supervised student teaching in a US public school setting (usually full-time for a semester, at minimum) and a 4-year college degree (BS or BA). Many states now also require that applicants pass a state-administered test, as well. The applicant is only licensed for the grade levels/subject areas in which the coursework matches the education requirements. You can't just go into a school and teach whatever you want with a degree in elementary education, for example.

    NCLB also has its own national licensing classifications that cross over states. A state may grant a license to a person to teach elementary education K-6, for example, based on the coursework/university program that person took. Depending on the curriculum/rigor of said coursework, NCLB may add the term "highly qualified" to a person's certificate for that area (elementary education K-6). It's an advanced license, of sorts.
  17. Anonymous Member

  18. Anonymous Member

    Re: Applied Scholastics no longer on approved list in 4 states


    I would guess North Korea and Italy each have different rules for becoming a teacher, too.

    This post http://forums.whyweprotest.net/1303775-post46/ in speaking of US public education (and referencing the NCLB Act) said
    which is, at best, misleading. For example, someone could claim to be credentialed by Applied Scholastics Inc. (program of credentialing) but by no means does that mean they are qualified, let alone licensed, to teach school in any US state or territory.

    Too bad no one ever thought to suggest to any US states' Departments of Education personnel to look into what Applied Scholastics actual credentialing process involves (not to mention the ASI curriculum itself). If we had, then we'd see the program getting dropped off of SES lists instead of it flourishing in all 50 states.
  19. Anonymous Member

    Re: Applied Scholastics no longer on approved list in 4 states

    Replying to two previous posters:

    A verified state teaching CREDENTIAL is not "like a diploma," at least not in California and other major states. Please go the the California Commission on Teacher Credentialing to look up whether a person has a teaching CREDENTIAL or not. Licensing is a term used, at least in California, for psychologists, social workers, etc. It is not a term used for educators.

    In the current SES iteration there are no requirements for any credentials whatsoever by the tutors. There are other requirements but nothing involving credentials. It is immaterial to the state department of education, in terms of the SES programs, what "credentials" or "course work" that any tutor may have. This is, IMO, one of the flaws in the SES program

    And Indiana has just now published its Approved Providers List for 2010-2011 and AS is still on it. Most state departments of education have an every two-year review of the SES providers. I do not know where AS is in this process in Indiana.

    Indiana (as of 09/09/10)

    SES Contact

    Indiana Department of Education

    151 West Ohio Street
    
Indianapolis,
    Indiana 46204

    Phone: 317.232.6610

    Fax: 317.232.8004

    webmaster@doe.in.gov

    Indiana SES>State Approved Supplemental Service Provider List

    PLEASE NOTE: A provider’s placement on the state approved SES provider list should not be construed as an endorsement of the provider by the Indiana Department of Education. SES providers are not employed by Indiana Department of Education and do not hold any contracts with the Indiana Department of Education. SES providers are paid by school districts only for services rendered by providing tutoring to eligible students. Placement on the state approved SES provider list is not a guarantee of payment, funding, or selection by parents.

    New Mexico has NOT published its SES Approved Providers list for 2010-2011.
  20. Anonymous Member

    Re: Applied Scholastics no longer on approved list in 4 states

    Babbles Schwarz comments, in her own inimitable way. I don't know which is worse, ear implants (by SEGNPMSS*) or Study Tech.

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  21. AnonLover Member

    Checking up on the status of our List of States Using Applied Scholastics

    As of August 2010:
    As of Sept 2010
    New Mexico Dept of Ed page for Title I stuff never was updated for 2010-11. But i found it elsewhere... buried...

    This document mentions ling to new list:
    http://www.portalesschools.com/SES WEB/Supplemental Educational Services 2-23-11.pdf

    new list here:
    http://www.portalesschools.com/SES WEB/List of SES Service Providers 11-10-10.pdf

    ^^I'm not seeing Applied Scholastics listed! but its late, and its way past my bed time - somebody should dbl chk me on that?
  22. AnonLover Member

    That document may or not be for just one school district, so I'm still digging thru eligible school districts to see if anyone else had the annual state-wide list for confirming NM dropped ASI.

    Any NMfags in da house wanna contact someone for us to try and get the list or atleast confirm Applied Scholastics aint on it? It appears they only operated in ABQ school district in the past.

    Title I contact info at state level at the bottom of this page: http://www.ped.state.nm.us/titlei/supplementalEducationServices.html
    ABQ school district SES contact info on this page: http://www.aps.edu/title-i/supplemental-educational-services
  23. AnonLover Member

    Las Cruses school district in NM has a spreadsheet here:
    SES Providers Contact Info - Las Cruces Public School District

    altho ASI is taken off & hidden on the 2nd tab for that school district, the first tab is the statewide list and its still there :(

    So NM did not drop applied scholastics per se - but atleast 2 school districts aren't carrying their name
  24. over9000OT Member

    Definitely need an NMfag to get hot on this. If a few districts have dropped, it may be enough to get some momentum built up to get the state to drop AS.
  25. And this is why... even without Anonymous.... The tech doesn't work well enough to be a typical standing. Consider that Anonymous does very little to actually affect this. We may send letters warning of the connection, but Ultimately, if LRH tech worked to a good enough standard, people would actually want it. Of course Scilons will claim that LRH tech is so effective it would turn the status quo on end and the government doesn't want that. But everyone on the outside knows better, and Joe public who sees this won't buy into "Conspiracy-to-shut-down-the-tech"

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