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Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

Discussion in 'Media' started by TinyDancer, May 18, 2010.

  1. TinyDancer Member

    Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    As foreshadowed at the end of last night's program, tonight Lateline will show an interview with a woman who, as an 11-year-old, was coached by a leading scientologist on how to lie to authorities to cover up her sexual abuse.


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    UPDATE

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUBEhc-6CCA[/ame]
    Transcript and video Lateline interview with Amy Scobee - 19 May 2010
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvwukGdk8I0[/ame]



    Media:


    Top Scientologist 'covered up sex abuse' - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

    Church faces new abuse claims - Sydney Morning Herald

    Scientologist accused of covering up abuse | The Australian

    Scientologists Accused of Covering Up 11-Year-Old Girl's Rape (Updated) - Scientology - Gawker

    ODIT/UNews: Top CCHR Scientologist Accused of Child Rape Cover-Up [video]

    Scientologists Accused Of Covering Up 11-Year-Old Girl’s Rape | Defamer Australia

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    New South Wales has no limitation period for rape or sexual abuse or most other serious crimes.

    On another point:

    THIS IS NOT A RAPE CASE.

    This is a sexual molestation situation. The mother wanted that made clear. People are confusing Scarlett saying she was raped (outside the CoS) with Carmen saying she was molested.
  2. manly man Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    /Popcorn
  3. Legion Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    thanks TD can't wait to see this
  4. Anonymous Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

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  5. manly man Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    did it air already?
  6. El Diablo Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    Nup tonight (10.30pm Australian Eastern Standard Time)

    ...or rather, 4 and a half hours.
  7. Anonymous Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    Thumbs twiddling.

    Twiddling thumbs.
  8. TinyDancer Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    Lateline coming on now in Australia.
  9. El Diablo Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    Oh they're interviewing Amy Scobee too!
  10. Anonymous Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    Your blow by blow account is welcome.
  11. anonhuff Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    Yeah don't post any details about what the show is about, no possible way someone reading a thread about what the show is about would want to know about it from people that are watching it.
  12. Anonymous Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    Chill, dawg

    Let them WATCH the show. They'll provide details in due time.
  13. PodPeople Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    I wondered abou that. Go Amy!
  14. anonhuff Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    I was posting assuming it was a half hour show, tinydancer posted 30 minutes ago.

    If it's an hour-long show, cocks etc.
  15. El Diablo Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    Oh wow...excellent report!

    So head of the CCHR was the person coaching Carmen & her mum to not report the abuse. How ironic (and to repeat Amy Scobee's point - not surprising)

    And excellent info from Amy: Went over suppressive declares, disconnection, the "high crime" of speaking out publicly against scientology, harrassment of critics & vocal ex's...frickin' great report. Bring on a judicial inquiry!!!
  16. Kenji Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    That was a great report.
    Amy Scobee is win.

    WHERE CAN I GET HER BOOK PEOPLE?!
  17. PodPeople Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    Scobee Publishing
  18. Random guy Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    And the girl?
  19. Kenji Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    We should all get the Theosophical Society to get copies of it ;)
    That way, a store all of 300 meters from the CoS in Melbourne will have it :p

    + thanks :D
  20. thefatman Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    Video links? I missed it :( My parent's hijacked the TV to watch a stupid movie with Hugh Grant.
  21. Kenji Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice


    As much as I love Hugh Grant, that is a crime against nature to stop people from being able to watch an Anti-Scientology report. :O
  22. El Diablo Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    It's not up yet, but when it is, you'll find it here >>> Lateline - ABC - Vodcast
  23. PodPeople Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    So Who is the 11-yr old girl?
  24. thefatman Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    Thanking you :)
  25. re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    Have a seat over there and I'll tell you.

    *braces for Epic Video*
  26. Gottabrain Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    Wow.

    Carmen, you were incredible. Thank you, thank you for coming forward. Carmel, thank you thank you thank you. ABC, thank you for the most hard-hitting program ever.

    Amy Scobee... Amy, you are spectacular at interviewing. You were so clear, so caring. You were able to translate and communicate all those Scn terms in normal speak without even the slightest hesitation. Amy, you blew me away.

    You were so motivating, so inspirational, so honest, so warm, so completely correct.

    I am so happy today. Finally, finally, we really are going to break the C of S' reign of terror. Now I really know we will. And my heart feels good.

    Thank you, everyone for coming forward and speaking out.

    And to think we got the ethics book that was used for this program, the one from which ABC read the Scientology Crimes and High Crimes, out of the public library. Another C of S footbullet. ha ha

    Sheila
  27. RightOn Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    Oh this sounds wonderful!
    Can't wait to see it!
  28. Gottabrain Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    Carmen was interviewed about being raped for years, starting at age 11, by her stepfather. Her mother was also interviewed, as well as the original social worker. They had told the social worker they were going to the C of S to handle it and the social worker disapproved. There, Carmen and her mother were drilled by the woman (who is currently Pres of CCHR in the USA) on how to lie and deny it happened to the police, which they did.

    Many years later, Carmen brought charges to her stepfather, but with very minimal result because it was so much later than the incident. The police reports were on TV and they were awesome evidence.

    Carmel Underwood and yours truly had a few words.

    Then Amy Scobee explained how it is church policy to not go to the police because it is "bad public relations" and explained Scientology crimes and high crimes in detail as well as disconnection.

    Amy - was spectacular. And there is a surprise ending that I'm not going to give away that will make you float away from your screen. ;)

    I VOTE THAT AMY SCOBEE BE ACKNOWLEDGED AS A FULL-ON AUSSIE NOW FOR WHAT SHE'S DONE FOR US HERE IN AUSTRALIA. Thank you, Amy. I can't even begin to say what it did for me personally.
  29. RightOn Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    tease!!!
    oh this is going to be good! Thanks!
  30. Anonymous Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    The waiting ... it HURTS
  31. mnql1 Member

  32. Random guy Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    This sounds good! I'm really waiting for the video to come up!
  33. El Diablo Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    Amy Scobee Interview available on the Lateline Homepage

    (just need to scroll down the list on the right of the player)
  34. PodPeople Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    pres cchr usa: Bruce Wiseman?!! ?

    Thanks to All of u. Can't wait to float. I'm soooo happy to hear that finally the exact sci references were aired about not going to police, withholding evidence, etc.
  35. El Diablo Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    Was a woman...but I've forgotten her name.
  36. Anonymous Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    Amy was awesome - but there was more beforehand, and presumably a tidbit afterwards - anyone youtubing the whole segment?
  37. thefatman Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    Wait, something makes me think that Amy's interview wasn't the only thing that happened tonight. Or am I delusional?
  38. Anonymous Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    Jan Eastgate
  39. El Diablo Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    It wasn't...it was the interview at the end of lateline.

    They had a pre-recorded piece with interviews from Carmen (the girl who was sexually molested), her mother, Ex-Scientologists Sheila & Carmel...plus the various written responses from Scientology...really well done...sorry if I've mucked anything up with this description.

    But yeah, Amy Scobee's interview was the sauce for sure. Tied everything together, gave a broader picture of what's going on in the CoS...like how this isn't an "isolated incident"...but that coverups are endemic (actually a "high-crime" not to cover such things up)...again, about the "blaming the victim" mentality that goes along with that...
  40. El Diablo Member

    re: Carmen Rainer - ABC (Aus) Lateline: Perverting the Course of Justice

    Danke. :)

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