Civil case: sparrow harrowing II

Discussion in 'Anon Sparrow' started by Anonymous, May 4, 2011.

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  1. Zak McKracken Member

    ACLU ACLU ..sparrow .......... ACLU ACLU ACLU

    them's slackers. how 'bout you?
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  2. RightOn Member

    Sub, whatever the ACLU is to you..
    perhaps they can help in the last case some how. Now I am of course not saying this to further rile you, but hey, for whatever reason they were there, I am just glad that Moxon was pissed off by their presence, at the very least. And if they can help down the line, (whether they are riding on Sparrow's tail fetahers or not) it can't hurt if it helps Sparrow right?
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  3. Anonymous Member

    Saw "malicious prosecution" mentionned in a couple of posts, I'm going to take a guess and say the prosecutor is washing out his shit stained undies.
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  4. RightOn Member

    I wanted to add that you can feel free to Paypal him or send him a donation via snail mail if you are so inclined to do so, I am sure he can use the $$ for a myriad of different things pertaining to his upcoming case. Or just to blow off some steam and have some fun.
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  5. RightOn Member

    the next court hearing is on Friday the 13th???????
    welp, hopefully it's gonna be a real unlucky day for da cult
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  6. TinyDancer Member

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  7. Smurf Member

    I'm curious whether Sparrow still has a job after all this drama?
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  8. 3rdMan Member

    Last we heard he said his work was being supportive.
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  9. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Nigga please. WWP wouldn't be WWP without angry guy ranting in the corner.

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  10. Mark Cabian Member

    Yes, he's working.
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  11. AnonyVix Member

    Wow. All I recall reading were people saying a representative from the ACLU was attending the trial which in my mind does not equate to actually doing anything to help, that is it was reported they effectively sat back and watched and this does not suggest anything other than the fact Sparrow took this fight on his own, with legal council, but thanks for the clarification. :-D

    The only other noteworthy report was that Moxon and the ACLU rep supposedly had a heated debate which was supposedly started by Moxon being all confrontational so again no credit to the ACLU.

    To my mind, again, the ACLU being there is only note worthy because they took the time, and expense I guess, of sending someone to keep any eye on it presumably because they were interested in the case. Why they were interested, what message this sends to the scilons, if any, and where, if anywhere, this will lead is what interests me; I feel that while they deserve no credit in this matter their presence was a positive thing in the larger scheme of things. And if it riled Moxon that's just icing on the cake.

    The fact the ACLU did nothing and were unnecessary to getting the right outcome to the criminal trial gives credit to Sparrow and defence lawyer team and I guess the Judge, Jury (was there one?) & US justice system for seeing this for the crock of frivolous bollocks it was.

    My shit smells of roses, on a compost heap. ;-p
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  12. AnonyVix Member

    THIS too.
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  13. I remember when something that weak would have been countered with gore spam or other offensive imagery. Some days, I wonder if we haven't all become a bunch of Aspies needing our hugbox.
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  14. Anonymous Member

    Some ACLU is better than no ACLU

    Kudos to them if they work this the way I think they might work it.

    This time - the world is watching. Lots of people watching this unfolding soap opera like never before.

    This "Space Jazz" is being played to a live audience. Let's have a ruling on "SP declare" piss-yellow paper in normal law.

    Let's have the law intervene to remove minors and spouses from the cult if needed.

    Lets have law enforcement with the balls to ask David Miscavige where the hell his wife Shelly is. Is she dead, like her mom?
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  15. greebly Member

    Some Questions:

    1. "05/13/2011 11:00 AM Status Hearing"

    What does this actually mean?
    What will actually happen or be discussed at this hearing?
    Can the whole issue be resolved in one fell swoop at this hearing?
    (i.e. the judge goes lolwut - case closed)

    2. Is this civil case bought by only 1 person or more and who?

    3. Will records and testimonies in the criminal case be usable in this case/

    4. Are the records and judgement of the criminal case publicly available yet and if not when?

    Imho this case of Sparrow's carries alot of weight and interest for all kinds of longterm protesting.

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  16. Anonymous Member

    ok so what exactly is the civil suit about?
  17. Herro Member

    All the dipshits fellating the hate machine are gone. That shit don't play no more. Adapt or die bitch.
  18. Natter Bored Member

    You drunk?
  19. moarxenu Member

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  20. Anonymous Member

    Rational beans like us do not fear teh triskaidekaphobia. Magical thinkers liek Scilons might.
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  21. RightOn Member

    I was just having fun
  22. xenubarb Member

    Can we work that '13 = bad' superstition for lulz?
  23. BigBeard Member

    Speaking of the civil case, has there been any action on the Emergency TRO request filed by Toxin shortly after Sparrow won the criminal case??

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  24. anonsparrow Member


    Ok so because I did allude to the ACLU vs. Moxon showdown in one of my earlier posts, I will tell you what that was about but then I’ll be laying relatively low while the civil matter proceeds.

    Remember that post where I alluded to the epic showdown, and how I said there’s a chance that Moxon might try to use the post against me somehow? He tried. He printed it out and gave it to the DA who then gave it to my lawyers.

    They were extremely concerned as they intensely read it out in the hallway. Then, seeing that there was nothing compromising in it, they were fine but asked me to please not post anything more until the trial was over. Nice try Moxon.

    So I will tell the ACLU story but that’s it for war stories for a little while.

    Also before I forget, I haven’t checked emails yet so I apologize to those who are waiting to hear back. I am still working and my employer knows the whole story and is VERY supportive. I will be busy for the next few days while I get caught up but promise to answer all emails. And yes if anyone is in a position to make a legal donation I would be happy to receive.

    My civil lawyer attended the entire trial and was invaluable to the process. No doubt what he learned there will only help our cause in the civil. But I can’t wait to see that bill. Also I’ve learned the transcript is going to cost around $2000. Worth every penny.


    So, the very first court appearance was way back in July 2010. I hadn’t been arrested yet (didn’t know I was going to be arrested) and I fully intended to represent myself as it was my understanding that Ms. Belotte was representing herself.

    So a couple hours before the hearing, Moxon has a process server drop off a thick pack of “evidence” to my apartment and makes it official that he is now representing Ms. Belotte. So I get to the hearing early and I’m waiting in this tiny waiting room when in marches Moxon, Ms. Belotte, Ms. Stanard, and Ms. Turissi. (But these women don’t report to Ms. Belotte so I’m not sure what they were doing there - huh.)

    And boy did they have fun. They laughed it up and chitty chatted for an hour as we waited for the judge. I got to hear about how much they are expanding and all the book sales in Baltimore and all the new First Starts (my old stat) and blah blah blah.

    It was a little intimidating.

    So then we have the hearing and long story short is that the judge gives me some time to think over whether or not I still want to represent myself.

    Fast forward a couple weeks now. I’ve been arrested and have sat in jail for 36 hours. I’ve been charged with a serious domestic violence crime. And things are looking a little glum. (But at the same time, Anonymous is firing off a multitude of harpoons to the appropriate ACLU office here in Washington.)

    Some of you may remember that I was contacted by the ACLU and was asked if there is anything I can do to get people to quit calling and quit emailing. I told them if they wanted to write something up I would post it, but that I’m not the boss of Anonymous.

    So I show up for the next status hearing and now I do have a lawyer - a good one. Now the demeanor of the Scientologists isn’t quite so chipper. In fact there’s a palpable feeling of concern amongst them.

    So I go back into the tiny waiting room and take a seat next to a gentleman that was wearing a suit and tie. I wait quietly waiting while my lawyer signed in and was doing some preliminary stuff. The gentleman leans over and says “Are you Brian?” I said yes and he said “I’m so and so from the ACLU. I would like permission to sit in on your hearing.” (!!!) Absolutely you can sit in on my hearing! And we start to talk a little bit and Moxon comes into the room and sees this going on.

    I pointed out Moxon to the ACLU lawyer who then stood up and introduced himself and asked Moxon for his permission to sit in on the hearing.

    Moxon was stultified. It took him a good three seconds of just starting at him before he eventually answered. “No. I don’t think that would be appropriate.” To which the ACLU lawyer responded: “Well actually I don’t need your permission I was just trying to be polite. I will be sitting in on the hearing.” (ZING!)

    Again Moxon is stultified for a few seconds and then says “Can I talk to you out in the hallway for a minute?” The lawyer looked ntrigued and entertained Moxon’s request. I could hear Moxon in the hallway telling him that Anonymous this and Anonymous that. Blah blah blah.

    When the ACLU lawyer returned into the waiting room, he was not impressed. He told me and my lawyer the ridiculous things Moxon was saying to him in the hallway. Not a good first impression.

    Now fast forward a few more weeks and I’m attending my first status hearing in the -criminal- trial. Guess who shows up - the ACLU lawyer. So now I have a civil lawyer, a criminal lawyer, and an ACLU lawyer showing some interest in both cases. Stark contrast to that very first day before Judge Beaudin when the Scientologists certainly thought they would just overwhelm me early on and that I would cave in and go away.

    In fact, Mr. Moxon was completely willing to make some sort of informal agreement that first day when we went before Judge Beaudin. As Ms. Belotte sat right next to Moxon, Moxon told the judge that if I didn’t want to get a lawyer and wanted to settle this informally with him, that “would be ideal”.

    What’s this? Ms. Belotte wanting to make an informal deal to get me to stay away? But I later would evolve into this psycho-sexual predator who has been stalking her for months with an erection, who has threatened to blow up her place of work. In her legal filings she said: “He’s getting more unstable and I am afraid of what he will do to me.”

    Why on Earth would it be “ideal” to make a gentlemen’s agreement with such a person?

    Well their story spiraled out of control. They kept telling more and more lies trying to get a handle on the situation. And in the criminal trial they were caught up BIG TIME in many of those lies.

    But I digest...

    So Moxon sees that the ACLU lawyer is there at the criminal trial status hearing. I’m sitting next to this ACLU lawyer and Moxon comes walking up to us. He glares at the ACLU lawyer for a few seconds without saying anything. It was INTENSE!

    Finally he says “Hello Mr. so and so.”

    ACLU: “Hello Mr. Moxon.”

    Moxon: “So uh, do you represent Anonymous now?”

    ACLU: “I don’t represent anybody.”

    Moxon: “Are you going to help defend Mr. Mandigo in this case?”

    And remember, these two have already developed a rather contentious rapport.

    ACLU: “Maybe. .... If I have to.”

    Moxon just glared at him for what seemed to be an eternity. And the ACLU lawyer glared right back the whole time. It was friggin intense! My heart was pounding. Then after that epic staredown, Moxon turns around and walks out of the courtroom.

    Woo fucking Hoo! I’ll never forget that. Amazing.

    Ok seriously, I’m done. <3
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  25. Anonymous Member

    This story warms my cockles.
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  26. Anonymous Member

    wall o' text so delicious I read it twice

    <3 sparrow
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  27. Thanks for the follow-up, sparrow. I was starting to gnaw on my computer waiting for this juicy story.

    I think we need another auction to raise funds for the transcripts.
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  28. Anonymous Member

    Moxon vs. ACLU

  29. Anonymous Member

    $2000 for the transcript?!?! O_O Could access to a copy of the transcript be court ordered so to save you money?
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  30. Anonymous Member


    Don't know if that was intentional or not, but it's perfect as is.
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  31. Anonymous Member

    Okay. Now this thread needs an official quote in it: "Woo fucking Hoo!"

    And so, for all those naysayers, saying "Nay! No big deal, no big win", I say: Um, first of all, no ones read the transcript yet, ACLU is big goddam deal just being there and being Interested, and the civil suit is still to come. Also everything else Sparrow said above (oh, and stfu now, kay?)

    So I for one second that "Woo fucking Hoo!"

    I still am hoping, at this point, that media will cover the upcoming civil. It is now very interesting
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  32. Anonymous Member

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  34. over9000OT Member

    I have the weirdest boner right now.
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  35. Optimisticate Member

    Wow, I need a cigarette and a long warm shower after reading that. Wooooo! Warm tingles all over!

    Scientology's lawyer trying to intimidate the ACLU with a staring contest? Fucking L-O-L!!

    Don't blink, Moxon.
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  36. Anonymous Member

    Then, it was like ...
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  37. COREarg Member

    Remember to use some soft jazz music while you spend time getting relaxed *wink wink*

    I just loved the TENSO moment on Sparrow's post.
    Didn't knew lawyers did starecontests... Moxon is plain retarded.

    And god, why I don't have money right now so I can donate just for that transcripts? :C I has a sad

    btw: avatar is related.
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  38. Anonymous Member

    Item I would bid on: a Sparrow Hawaiian shirt signed by Sparrow, Sparrow's lawyers, and ACLU guy.
    Oh yes, I would.
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  39. Anonymous Member

    I thought lawyers did staring contests only in movies, and bad ones at that. This is so cool!

    Man, I can't wait for that transcript!
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  40. Anonymous Member

    Reading Sparrow's text, it just boggles the mind to observe the level of immaturity of the scions: the cliquish fake enthusiasm, the glaring to compensate for their lack of having anything convincing to say/do, Moxon -as a lawyer- being nonetheless compelled to bring petty and worthless "evidence" to the DA's attention (not to mention the unrelated squirrel busters fiasco as another recent example)...

    It's quite an accomplishment to regress to such childish levels of reasoning and emotional gratification that most of us get over at potty training while still being convinced of one's own spiritual evolution.
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