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    “ Overrun hospitals turn away residents, some displaying symptoms.”
    Admitting viral victims into a hospital infects the staffs and other patients and ends up spreading disease.”100 bed hospitals opened up” means temporary tents.
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    Coronavirus Live Updates: Toll Climbs as Infections Reach Europe and Australia
    Shanghai Disneyland shut down, hospitals pleaded for help, France
    How big could the outbreak be?

    Researchers at Northeastern University and Imperial College London estimate that the number of cases may be five or 10 times higher than what has been reported.
    The most likely number is around 6,000 cases, according to the latest estimates, which will change as more information about the virus becomes known.
    Estimated number of coronavirus cases

    With more confirmed cases outside of China,
    estimates show there may be about 6,000 cases.

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    Number of cases

    Source: Northeastern University’s Laboratory for the Modeling of Biological and Socio-technical Systems. Estimates as of Jan. 23.

    These estimates are based on an analysis of the population of Wuhan, the number of cases detected outside of China and the number of people who travel from Wuhan to other areas. Public health officials still do not know how the disease is transmitted, and experts urged caution in interpreting the estimates
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    China’s Coronavirus Has Revived Global Economic Fears
    The spread of the dangerous virus has spooked global markets and threatened prospects for economic growth.’” In short, those in control of money took note of a growing crisis in a country of 1.4 billion people, whose consumers and businesses are a primary engine of economic growth around the world, and they chose to reduce their exposure to risk.
    By late Monday, the virus had killed more than 100 people in China. More than 4,500 had been infected — mostly in mainland China, but also in Hong Kong, Japan, Macau, Malaysia, Nepal, Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan, Thailand and Vietnam, and as far away as Australia, Canada and the United States.”
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    On the economic impact of the China epidemic

    “Now, you might think that this implies an upside to China’stroubles, that disrupting China’s vast manufacturing sector would offer opportunities to producers in other countries, including the United States. That is, you might think this if you knew nothing about 21st-century economics.
    Sure enough, Wilbur Ross, the commerce secretary, appeared on Fox Business on Thursday morning to declare that he “didn’t want to talk about a victory lap,” but that the coronavirus “will help to accelerate the return of jobs to North America.” By saying this, he demonstrated a couple of things: (1) why Gail Collins’s readers voted him Trump’s worst cabinet member, and (2) why Trump’s trade war has been such a failure.”

    ” What Ross and his colleagues apparently still don’t understand — although some of them may be getting an inkling — is that modern manufacturing isn’t like manufacturing a couple of generations ago, when different countries’ industrial sectors were engaged in fairly straightforward head-to-head competition. These days we live in a world of global value chains, in which much of what any given nation imports consists not of consumer goods but of “intermediate” goods that it uses as part of its own production process.”

    “ What we can say is that if the virus seriously disrupts Chinese production, its impact on the U.S. economy will be like an extreme version of Trump’s trade war, except without any compensation in the form of tariff revenue. And the two things we know about the trade war are that it has been an economic bust and that Trump’s officials still appear clueless about why it has been a bust.”
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    Trump sticks embattled health chief with coronavirus response

    Trump and his top aides are privately on edge about the global threat, ramping up their response as fear starts to spread across the U.S.
    He could just as easily become the fall guy if the president grows unhappy with the speed or nature of the virus’ transmission, or the increasingly intense media coverage surrounding the administration’s actions.
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    Coronavirus Live Updates: Deaths Surpass 200, and State Department Urges Against Travel to China

    W.H.O. declares the coronavirus outbreak a global health emergency.

    The World Health Organization declared on Thursday that the new coronavirus outbreak was a global health emergency, acknowledging that the disease represents a risk outside of China, where it emerged last month.
    The declaration — officially called a Public Health Emergency of International Concern —serves notice to all United Nations member states that the world’s top health advisory body rates the situation as serious.
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    economic impact of the virus
    Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the WHO’s Director-General, said on Thursday that “there is no reason for measures that unnecessarily interfere with international travel and trade.” However, he acknowledged it could spread to countries “with weaker health systems [that] are ill-prepared to deal with it.”
    Trump cut back the CDC budget and it’s unlikely we will work with other nations that need help. Help to the nations with “fragile health systems” AKA what Trump calls SHITHOLE COUNTRIES would slow the rate of infection
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    Current count 215 deaths and over 10,000 cases
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    Current count
    259 dead in china
    cases 11,700
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    300 dead
    14,000 infected
    one of the cases in the USA was human to human transmission
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    In one week

    B50D3287-C36A-4343-9F78-2ABE5BDE459D.jpeg Cases today

    500 fatalities
    20,000 infected in China
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    Li, who according to the BBC was a 34-year-old ophthalmologist at Wuhan Central Hospital, had claimed that in late December he shared his concerns via private chat with medical school graduates after several patients exhibited symptoms similar to SARS before he was visited and warned by authorities.
    He was then summoned to Public Security Bureau where he was forced to sign a letter stating that he made false comments about the virus, the BBC reported. Authorities later apologized.
    Shortly after, he began coughing and developed a fever that landed him in the hospital for several days. On Jan. 30, he tested positive for the virus.”
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    I can’t post the link because it’s behind a pay wall but you can see a few articles for free from the New York Times

    Coronavirus Live Updates: Soaring Death Toll Heightens Concerns About Care

    Mass quarantine centers were ordered in Wuhan, but it’s not clear they would be able to provide even basic help.
    .... The World Health Organization said on Thursday that 564 people had died in China from the virus, up from nearly 500 people the day before, and that 28,060 cases had been confirmed in the country. There are also 225 cases outside the country, and one death..”

    WHO believes the deaths in China are under reported.
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    Coronavirus kills 97 people in one day, while cruise ship cases almost double”
    in ago
    A Hong Kong apartment building was partially evacuated due to possibility virus was transmitted through pipes

    38 min ago
    2 newly infected people in the UK are health workers

    From CNN’s Anastasia Graham-Yooll in London
    Two of the latest four coronavirus infections in the UK are healthcare workers, and British authorities are now “working urgently to identify all patients and other healthcare workers who may have come into close contact” with them, Public Health England Medical Director, Yvonne Doyle, said in a statement.
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    (From same link above)
    These are the four cruise ships trapped by the coronavirus

    With travel advisories across the globe, four cruise ship were put in effective lockdowns over growing concerns of the novel coronavirus.
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    This is a map of how the China Coronavirus will effect trade 1D346444-90C0-4122-AFC9-5F3F29DFC268.jpeg 1D346444-90C0-4122-AFC9-5F3F29DFC268.jpeg
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    there is an excellent discussion of the response of totalitarian governments to a pandemic

    death toll- 2100
    infected 75,000
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    “ NEW: The 14 Americans who were infected with coronavirus were flown home from Diamond Princess this week to U.S. against the advice of CDC. Passengers on the plane were not informed. Me with @joelachenbach @lennymbernstein @shibanimahtani.” Was

    “ : In Washington, where it was still Sunday afternoon, a fierce debate broke out: The State Department and a top Trump administration health official wanted to forge ahead. The infected passengers had no symptoms and could be segregated on the plane in a plastic-lined enclosure. But officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention disagreed, contending they could still spread the virus. The CDC believed the 14 should not be flown back with uninfected ”
    The State Department won the argument. But unhappy CDC officials demanded to be left out of the news release that explained that infected people were being flown back to the United States — a move that would nearly double the number of known coronavirus cases in this country.”

    So yes, he is spreading disease
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    A large economic effect from the Coronavirus begins
    Apple is effected because of supply chain problems and a large market...China.. has stopped buying Apple products
    Airline stocks drop because of widespread canceled flights.
    The Armani fashion show was closed to the public!
  34. I don't know, It seems like good controls are needed, but it could kill the elderly ??? I don't know, Is it the weak it kills or certain DNA groups ?
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    Deaths 2700
    Infections 85,000
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    Unclear at this point
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  37. Do you have this feeling that you stay calm about this virus, but everybody in your surroundings go crazy about it
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    he still didn’t seem to process the fact that producing a vaccine means conducting months and months of trials before it can be deployed. He even at one point asked whether the flu vaccine could be used to combat coronavirus”
    “ I don’t think they know what the time will be,” Trump said. “I’ve heard very quick numbers — a matter of months — and I’ve heard pretty much a year would be an outside number.”
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