Finding disconnection stories

Discussion in 'Projects' started by TrevAnon, May 19, 2016.

  1. TrevAnon Member

    I am starting this thread to find disconnection stories for the people who are currently on the big list.

    The idea is to add a label "Victim of disconnection" for anyone for whom we can find a disconnection story that they are telling themselves using their full name.

    I plan to go through all the names that are currently on the big list and post any links I find here. I hope they will be included on the big list itself, all of them with the "Victim of disconnection" label for easy retrieval.

    Please note:

    If you have a NEW name for the list based on (1) evidence of having been in and (2) evidence of speaking out against the cult, then post in the main big list thread.

    I am thinking about starting a page on the wiki for stories of people who were never in and got disconnected from.

    After I have gone through the whole list of people currently on I will ask a mod to close this thread. Any new entries from then on can then be put in the main big list thread
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  2. TrevAnon Member

    First, I have taken a look at the current big list.

    For the following entries there is "discon" in the entry line. I have assumed there is somehow proof of a disconnection story, so I'd like it when these people get the label "Victim of disconnection" in their entry.

    The list below is in the same order as people on the big list are, this for easy processing the label into the big list.

    Grace Aaron
    Ken Aaron
    Roland Aldridge
    Allen Barton
    Maureen Bolstad
    Lino Bombonato
    Al Bornstein
    Erin Francies
    Sara Goldberg
    Jean Michel Guerin
    Paul Haggis
    Jay Huguley
    Robert Hunter
    Phil Jones
    Mary McCarran Kahn
    Adrian Kelsey
    Susan Lentsch
    Rosalie Rose Lingenfelter
    Tom McCafferty
    Larry Nobs
    Melissa Paris
    Creed Pearson
    Gary Reisdorf
    Lois Reisdorf
    Deborah Rennard
    Halli Roeyer
    Brian J. Sheen
    Mary Jane Sterne
    Catherine E. Von Ach
    Kenny Wasserman
    Janela Webster
    Nancy Wenlock
    Guy White
    Jane White
    Charles Wildbank
    Antoine Young
    Warren M. Young
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  3. TrevAnon Member

    For the record let me state that I am using

    scientology disconnection -"big list" -"former church members" "<name>"

    to hunt for stories. Without the two "minus" strings I get all kinds of links to the big list itself, which in this case is annoying. :)
  4. TrevAnon Member

    Ok, so here are first results for A.

    There are not only people who actually got disconnected from, but also people who were THREATENED with disconnection. I'd say that counts as being a victim of disconnection, while it also proves that disconnection is not a thing that the parishioner can choose to do.

    The "A" also has a special case: Vickie Aznaran. Her declaration is proof that COS actively engages in covering up disconnection. Not sure if this justifies the "victim of disconnection" label, but we may want to add the fact in her entry.

    So here goes.

    For the following names on the big list, please add the label "Victim of disconnection" to their name with the links I am giving.


    Amy Allen -
    James Anderson - Daughter disconnected
    Jordan Anderson - Sister disconnected
    Liz {Peachey} Anderson - Daughter disconnected
    Larry Anderson - Tommy Davis on the record threatening him with disconnection
    Camilla Andersson - Husband disconnected
    Jon Atack - Describes being ordered to disconnect
    Allan Averay-Jones - Was told to disconnect
    Vickie Aznaran - Had to remove evidence of disconnection in the Larry Wollersheim laswuit - Not sure if this means she was a VICTIM -
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  5. TrevAnon Member

    For the following names on the big list, please add the label "Victim of disconnection" to their name with the links I am giving.


    Ann Bailey - Was ordered to disconnect
    Estelle Baines -
    Christine Baranay -
    Jason Barclay - Not sure. tells his story, in which he told his mom Christine he would have to disconnect under certain circumstances. This is an example or even proof of free choice, the church will say.
    Jason Beghe - His 4 year old son got kicked out of school -
    Kent Bengtsson - Friend disconnected
    Heather Bennett - Her kids suffered
    Charles Berner - Got 250 (!) letters of disconnection
    Mylène Beyer-Pillorget - Children disconnected See link to video, can t watch on this PC
    Derek Bloch - Parents disconnected
    Mary Ann Bosnos - Avoided a disconnection from her husband
    Patricia Braine - In her videos she talks about disconnection and being disconnected from
    Caroline Brown - Daughter disconnected
    Tonja Burden - Was told to disconnect from her parents
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  6. TrevAnon Member

    Ok, I checked 361 entries and found 22 stories, and I assume the 38 I found by searching for "discon" are all going to check out. This means by rough calculation that I'll end up with about 200 stories.

    We'll see. Tomorrow's another day.
  7. People with family disconnection, off the top of my head. Forgive me for not including links, but I noticed these folks aren't in your list so far, and I am sure these folks have both spoken out and reported suffering disconnection.

    Lori Hodgson
    Deanne McMurdie (I think she has spoken about disconnection, daughter Lori definitely has)
    Ron Miscavige, Sr.
    Ron Miscavige, Jr. (not positive on this one, might have to dig back)
    Jenna Miscavige-Hill
    Willie Jones - you have Phil listed already
    Mike Rinder
    Gary Morehead
    Mark Fisher

    Leah Remini (god daughter, friends)
    Chris Shelton (friends, former fiancee)
  8. TrevAnon Member

    Please provide LINKS for the above if they are not already on the big list.

    If we don't have links, we cannot put the label "victim of disconnection" in the entry. We need PROOF.

    I've just started and intend to do the rest of those already on in the next months.
  9. TrevAnon Member

    For the following names on the big list, please add the label "Victim of disconnection" to their name with the links I am giving.


    Steve Carmichael-Timson Friend disconnected
    Tanja Castle was ordered to disconnect from her husband
    Lucas Catton Was threatened with disconnection
    Tory Christman Family and friends all disconnected
    Neil Clark Family disintegrated because of disconnection
    Shane Clark Family disconnected
    Joanna Cook Friends disconnected, and failed to disconnect from her mother on a rumor
    Susan Crane Was ordered to disconnect from her sister
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  10. TrevAnon Member

    Note to self: here is a running total for the list as of this moment
    A 111 111
    B 250 361
    C 191 552
    D 149 701
    E 34 735
    F 99 834
    G 155 989
    H 182 1171
    I 10 1181
    J 66 1247
    K 104 1351
    L 159 1510
    M 225 1735
    N 44 1779
    O 31 1810
    P 137 1947
    Q 3 1950
    R 141 2091
    S 286 2377
    T 102 2479
    U 8 2487
    V 36 2523
    W 159 2682
    Y 12 2694
    Z 21 2715
  11. TrevAnon Member

    More notes:

    - When both MR's and others had dissocation statements from scientologists (they used to have a lot, now far less) those people coming out of the woodwork in some of the cases told they "disconnected from the church". Results as these I haven't listed for obvious reasons. :p Inb4 COS saying they disconnected from US! Meanies!

    - Despite my efforts the big list still pops up in the search results. There are quite some copies out there.

    - Well known blogs etc. almost all have a label "disconnection" on them which of course serves to be able to quickly go to the subject. However if a name is mentioned on a page where there is no disconnection story for that name, the website still comes up in the search. After a while I stopped checking these, so I'm quite sure I will miss stories in this first broad sweep. So be it.

    - My Italian, Swedish, Danish etc. etc. are quite rusty. So no luck there.

    - I also have links to unrelated stories about ex-COS-members where some telephone is disconnected. :p
  12. TrevAnon Member

    For the following names on the big list, please add the label "Victim of disconnection" to their name with the links I am giving.


    Bob Dalton Friend disconnected
    Dr Stephen Davies Patients disconnected from him
    Karen De La Carriere Her son Alexander disconnected / was forced to disconnect. He later died while still a member, she wasn't even allowed at his funeral.
    David DeMoss COS Facebook police called on members to block him / disconnect from him
    Peter Devaney Jr. Father and stepmother disconnected
    Tom De Vocht sister disconnected
    Sylvia F. DeWall Audio fragment of COS Ethics officer threatens to declare her, thus making her clients and husband leave.
    Tim DeWall not sure if the same fragment applies to him?
    Ramana Dienes-Browning Forced to disconnect from her father
    Placido Domingo Jr. COS tried to make him divorce his then-wife
    Jean-Paul Dubreuil Children disconnected from him
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  14. TrevAnon Member

    For the following names on the big list, please add the label "Victim of disconnection" to their name with the links I am giving.


    Michael Fairman Sued his chiropracter for religious discrimination after said person disconnected
    Jim Faust Was disconnected from by his children
    Mimi Faust Mother probably disconnected
    Ziba Feulner Teenage son disconnected
    Mark Fisher Disconnected from his brother and father
    Vickki Ford Disconnected from her son
    Marsha Friedman FB-disconnections because of COS
    Steve Friedman I think same link is safe enough
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  15. TrevAnon Member

    Until now 89, and I have 24 in store for later, so 113 by now.
  16. Incredulicide Member

    ^ THIS! This is why you can't do the following:
    Instead keep this thread open for never-ins that suffer disconnection, perhaps retitling it for that (or start a new thread linking to this one)?

    In fact, you're providing so much context about who is disconnecting that I think it's worth having an all encompassing "Victims of Disconnection" wiki page that includes every bit of disconnection info you're gathering for everyone!

    EDIT: I went ahead and created the page:'s_Disconnection_Policy

    Note this page is in addition to adding the disconnection label to entries in the big list. It certainly deserves it's own page, and I'll find a way to link to it from the big list, probably via reference links.
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  17. TrevAnon Member

    I am going to prefer that one. :)

    ZOMG! Thank you! Awesome!

    Do you think you can maintain this list too? As regards wiki I am quite a noob.

    Also it would be nice to have a tally in the introduction, like on the big list. I would guess you better start maintaining it when I'm done with Z.

    Until now while going through the big list I have also found some stories from people who were never in and got disconnected from. When I am done with Z I will start the new thread, post those and ask for it to be stickied. Then this thread can be closed and unstickied. :)
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  18. TrevAnon Member

    Hey Incred, I have a question. Can you go through the list I already found and posted in post 2 on this thread?

    I have excluded these people from my search sweep, so that is the reason you don't see Grace Aaron in the A.

    Or maybe go through it when I'm done with Z
  19. Incredulicide Member

    Yes I'm working on that offline and it'll be easier for me to insert them where they belong alphabetically after you finish Z.
  20. TrevAnon Member

    Incred, I see you also put Vicki's link on the big list.

    It may be good to add to the introductory text something like:

    To be complete, this list also gives links to declarations, affidavits, testimonies and so on that disconnection is in fact coerced or even forced upon members by the church. This refutes the church' claim that disconnection is a personal choice for the parishioner.
  21. TrevAnon Member

    Paul Adams has some disconnection which we may not have all.

    I think these people have given him permission to publish their stories so I'd guess they can be on "our" list.
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  23. TrevAnon Member

    For the following names on the big list, please add the label "Victim of disconnection" to their name with the links I am giving.


    Luis Garcia Friend disconnected
    Rocio Garcia (Luis wife) Same link
    Dan Garvin Brother disconnected
    Dylan Gill Father and uncle disconnected
    Ron Glazier Daughter disconnected
    Petra Goepfert Harald and Kristen Goepfert (brother and sister-in-law)
    Rebecca Goldstein Brother and sister disconnected
    Roger Gonnet Testified in court about the threat of disconnection
    Scott Gordon His wife Tatiana divorced him because of the disconnection policy
    Robert Graham Daughter and collagues all disconnected
    Sharon Graham Daughter and collagues all disconnected
    Joy Graysen Sued her chiropracter for religious discrimination after said person disconnected
    Francois Groenewald Got threatened with disconnection policy applied to him
    Paul Grosswald Testifies in court about disconnection
    Valeska Guider Was told she would need to disconnect from her own mother
  24. TrevAnon Member

    I need a vote on this one.

    Desiree Silvani-Cardos. She disconnected from her father.

    This is a new category? She is (or was at the time) a scilon and I guess she thinks it's for the better. However scilons disconnecting always think that. :( It shows the closed thinking of a scilon.

    There already is an entry for Jason Barclay who was in a similar situation, the difference being he is now out.

    Should we put her on the list?
  25. TrevAnon Member

    I think there is a little mistake in the entry for Tim DeWall. :)
  26. Incredulicide Member

    I vote no while she's still in (the story is only from 2 months ago), because that category probably contains every current Scientologist! Her dad is the victim in that story so when Tony Ortega gets his name (and he will) we can add him.
    Fixed, thanks :)
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  27. Incredulicide Member

    Prose to that effect added. I used "etc." because "and so on" is far too much of a Hubbardism for my liking :p
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  29. TrevAnon Member

    Thanks. I agree. While doing such a tedious job I every now and then need someone who has a fresh view. :)
  30. TrevAnon Member

    For the following names on the big list, please add the label "Victim of disconnection" to their name with the links I am giving.


    Natalie Hagemo The church always tried to do something to disconnect her from some part of her family
    Marjorie Hansen Was told that she would have to disconnect from anyone antagonistic to Scientology
    Allan Henderson His first wife, his six children, his 22 grandchildren: all disconnected from him
    Michael Henderson Had to disconnect from his dad
    Lori Hodgson Son Jeremy and daughter Jessica disconnected
    Zac Hopkins Friend disconnected
    Jack Horner Had to write disconnection letters
    Melody Horner Had to write disconnection letters
    Lynne Hoverson Was forced to disconnect from her non-scientologist daughter, son was SP-declared so she also couldn t speak to him. Also COS tried to force them to disconnect from TOny DePhillips and his wife
    Martin Hunt Was ordered to disconnect from family scientology disconnection -"big list" -"former church members" "Martin Hunt"

    I hope someone else can give a link for the following people, I will give priority to doing the rest. :)

    Jeff Hawkins - Not sure, but I think he was divorced from his 1st wife, and she appeared on Anderson Cooper as a representative for the church. However was it a divorce because of disconnection or were they both still in at the time and was the divorce about a matter unrelated to disconnection? Can't find a link. He has spoken out so many times!

    Marc Headley - Ok, call me stupid. I am quite sure Marc got disconnected from by several people, but where do I find a link? Or does he talk about it in his book? There are just too many, lol!

    Claire Headley - Again, I am stupid. I am quite sure Claire also got disconnected from by several people, but where do I find a link?

    Dallas Hill (Husband of Jenna) Same question There are way too many links about Jenna to find much about him. Sometimes I wish these people would not speak out so much. Bwahahaha! :p

    Sheila Huber Series of videos, I do not have the time to see if she was herself disconnected or had to do it
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  31. TrevAnon Member

    For the following names on the big list, please add the label "Victim of disconnection" to their name with the links I am giving.


    No luck :(
  32. TrevAnon Member

    For Sylvia DeWall please change "threatens" to "threatening". :)
  33. TrevAnon Member

    For the following names on the big list, please add the label "Victim of disconnection" to their name with the links I am giving.


    Rebecca Jessup Brother and sister disconnected.
    Willie Jones Son and daughter disconnected. Put up a billboard to ask people who have disconnected call their family or friends outside the cult.

    Link for Willie may also be used for her husband.

    Enough for today. :)
  34. TrevAnon Member

    When opening the contents of the new page the "A" and the first entry (Amy Allen) indent. Is it possible to add a few lines so this doesn't happen anymore?

  35. anon8109 Member

    Posting in epic thread.
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  36. TrevAnon Member

    For the following names on the big list, please add the label "Victim of disconnection" to their name with the links I am giving.


    Sherry Katz COS FB police tells her friends to disconnect https://leavingscientology.wordpres...sts-fail-to-get-the-memo-about-disconnection/
    Joe Keldani Wife divorced and disconnected, and kids disconnected from him
    Stephanie-Lynn Keldani Was ordered to disconnect from him
    Wolfgang Keller Was ordered to disconnect from Debbie Cook
    Sue Kranz Was being "handled" on what seemed a daily basis to disconnect from her husband
    Patricia Krenik Daughter disconnected
    Vivien Krogmann-Lutz Her family disconnected when she decided to leave the Sea Org
    Silvia Kusada A couple of family members disconnected
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  37. TrevAnon Member

    Halfway through the list! :)
  38. RightOn Member

    great idea and great job Trev.
    People seeing the list should know how many lives were ruined due to disconnection.
    Maybe you should contact the people who did the billboard and let them know too!
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  39. TrevAnon Member

    I have already done B, and now I find that Ron Biggs was also disconnected from his then 13 year old son

    Also Vicky Ballard, same link. The church kept trying to separate her from her husband, and her 2 kids got kicked out of a Scientology school.
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