Is this information about Keith Henson accurate?

CantPickaName · Dec 7, 2009

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CantPickaName;1093513 said:

Dint i hear somewhere that apostate's stories are unreliable?

edit...I meant "EXes"

feel better now?

fixed

_You_ · Dec 7, 2009

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_You_;1093484 said:

All I know is that Henson's children are saying this happened and living with the stigma of having their name attached to something so horrible and shameful.

How many are saying it, and how many is Valerie saying are saying it? There is a difference.

Herro · Dec 7, 2009

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Sup OP here. Wow. So I agree that whether or not Hensen diddled little kids has no bearing upon his criticism of Scientology. I just thought this site had some pretty fucked up accusations and wondered whether or not there is anything to them. The blowback against this question is hilarious. I still have not seen anybody do anything other than scream OSA. I guess nobody has any relevant information?

_You_ · Dec 7, 2009

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themadhair;1093593 said:

Given the source of these claims, and the less than complimentary attitude the sources has regarding Scientology, combined with Keith's refusal to deny the claims.....you do have to wonder.

If Scientology was involved, what would you expect the web site to say?

"This has nothing to do with the nice people at the Church of Scientology, the fastest growing bona fides religion with over 9000 churches, missions and groups"?

_You_ · Dec 7, 2009

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LOL, what do we care? He hasn't been part of the game for a long time.

_You_ · Dec 7, 2009

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Herro;1093915 said:

Sup OP here.

ORLY? Anyhow...

The blowback against this question is hilarious. I still have not seen anybody do anything other than scream OSA.

That's 'cos no-one has any info, but everyone knows the cult likes to call their enemies kiddyfiddlers. (when they can't find any ACTUAL crimes)

you do have to wonder.

Only if you're F-list celebrity obsessed. Regardless, anyone who thinks the the webpage is an OSA creation, and hasn't looked at the top-page Valerie Aurora's Homepage , and is still reading this thread, probably should.

I still think the thread was started by a cultie, or a troll knowing that it'd look like a cultie (which is a pretty dumb troll), but the claims about Keith are as likely as not to have nothing to do with the cult.

Herro · Dec 7, 2009

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_You_;1093943 said:

ORLY? Anyhow...

That's 'cos no-one has any info, but everyone knows the cult likes to call their enemies kiddyfiddlers. (when they can't find any ACTUAL crimes)

Only if you're F-list celebrity obsessed. Regardless, anyone who thinks the the webpage is an OSA creation, and hasn't looked at the top-page Valerie Aurora's Homepage , and is still reading this thread, probably should.

I still think the thread was started by a cultie, or a troll knowing that it'd look like a cultie (which is a pretty dumb troll), but the claims about Keith are as likely as not to have nothing to do with the cult.

Lol shit, forgot to check Anon. Well anyways. Look, someone on IRC put this link up, someone who is on IRC all the time. So I licked the ling and found it interesting to say the least. Did some lurking and found that there is very little clear info about this out there. Decided to post it here hoping somebody had more infos. Didn't want to post as Herro because I wanted to avoid the ZOMG HERRO faggotry. I knew that most people would scream OSAOSAOSA. But I was hoping at least one person here might have some actual information about this showing it to be bogus. I guess I was mistaken. Oh well, such is life.

_You_ · Dec 7, 2009

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Herro;1093915 said:

Sup OP here. Wow. So I agree that whether or not Hensen diddled little kids has no bearing upon his criticism of Scientology. I just thought this site had some pretty fucked up accusations and wondered whether or not there is anything to them. The blowback against this question is hilarious. I still have not seen anybody do anything other than scream OSA. I guess nobody has any relevant information?

Here's one post not screeching OSA with information about an interview of Carolyn Meinel where she mentions her first husband Keith Henson and what she says is really pretty positive IMO. There were many ways Meinel could have answered that question without even mentioning Henson.

_You_;1093547 said:

I found this interview that Carolyn Meinel did for verbosity. I'm not sure of the year this interview was done, but she answers the first question by mentioning her first husband Keith Henson.

Here's the question and how she answered it:

"verbosity: Okay, your background differs from a lot of the hacker stereotypes we see today. Can you tell us a little about yourself and how you got into hacking?

Carolyn Meinel: My first husband, H. Keith Henson, is a dynamite hacker with a gonzo sense of humor. When we got married in 1967, I was an Earth Mother type, content to bake bread, sew, garden and raise children and chickens. But one day in June 1971, Keith abruptly bundled me off to a University of Arizona summer class in Fortran programming. I was hooked."

Here's the link to the interview: verbosity -- Carolyn Meinel: Hack 101

I don't know about anyone else, but if my husband had molested my child and I had to mention his ass in an interview, it certainly wouldn't include a description of him in any flattering light at all.

With all the information that's been around for many years about how a child molester doesn't just stop molesting children, I find it a hard pill to swallow that Keith Henson's daughters didn't come forward to prosecute their father no matter how difficult it was since their father was once again living with a young daughter.
They were willing to gamble their younger half-sister's fate because they didn't want the hassle of going through a trial or maybe, just maybe, they're lying their asses off and this is a way for them to get back at their dad.

To further speculate at why a father might not come out and deny molestation charges is the fact that it never went to court and maybe the man doesn't want to come right out and call his own daughters liars no matter how much they try to smear his reputation.

Yup. Pure speculation, but since this never went to court, I see no reason to bash the man.

I don't think it's OSA, I think it's daughters who for some reason have the balls to post what would be the most horrible part of their lives on the internet, but didn't have the balls to take their father to court or to protect their younger half-sister while she lived under the same roof as the man who alledgedly molested them and two other girls.

_You_ · Dec 7, 2009

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_You_;1093547 said:

I found this interview that Carolyn Meinel did for verbosity. I'm not sure of the year this interview was done, but she answers the first question by mentioning her first husband Keith Henson.

Here's the question and how she answered it:

"verbosity: Okay, your background differs from a lot of the hacker stereotypes we see today. Can you tell us a little about yourself and how you got into hacking?

Carolyn Meinel: My first husband, H. Keith Henson, is a dynamite hacker with a gonzo sense of humor. When we got married in 1967, I was an Earth Mother type, content to bake bread, sew, garden and raise children and chickens. But one day in June 1971, Keith abruptly bundled me off to a University of Arizona summer class in Fortran programming. I was hooked."

Here's the link to the interview: verbosity -- Carolyn Meinel: Hack 101

I don't know about anyone else, but if my husband had molested my child and I had to mention his ass in an interview, it certainly wouldn't include a description of him in any flattering light at all.

With all the information that's been around for many years about how a child molester doesn't just stop molesting children, I find it a hard pill to swallow that Keith Henson's daughters didn't come forward to prosecute their father no matter how difficult it was since their father was once again living with a young daughter.
They were willing to gamble their younger half-sister's fate because they didn't want the hassle of going through a trial or maybe, just maybe, they're lying their asses off and this is a way for them to get back at their dad.

To further speculate at why a father might not come out and deny molestation charges is the fact that it never went to court and maybe the man doesn't want to come right out and call his own daughters liars no matter how much they try to smear his reputation.

Yup. Pure speculation, but since this never went to court, I see no reason to bash the man.

Herro;1093947 said:

Lol shit, forgot to check Anon. Well anyways. Look, someone on IRC put this link up, someone who is on IRC all the time. So I licked the ling and found it interesting to say the least. Did some lurking and found that there is very little clear info about this out there. Decided to post it here hoping somebody had more infos. Didn't want to post as Herro because I wanted to avoid the ZOMG HERRO faggotry. I knew that most people would scream OSAOSAOSA. But I was hoping at least one person here might have some actual information about this showing it to be bogus. I guess I was mistaken. Oh well, such is life.

_You_;1093956 said:

Here's one post not screeching OSA with information about an interview of Carolyn Meinel where she mentions her first husband Keith Henson and what she says is really pretty positive IMO. There were many ways Meinel could have answered that question without even mentioning Henson.

I don't think it's OSA, I think it's daughters who for some reason have the balls to post what would be the most horrible part of their lives on the internet, but didn't have the balls to take their father to court or to protect their younger half-sister while she lived under the same roof as the man who alledgedly molested them and two other girls.

Please continue to ignore my post and my ideas and the fact that I didn't think it was OSA.

_You_ · Dec 7, 2009

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Herro;1093947 said:

Didn't want to post as Herro because I wanted to avoid the ZOMG HERRO faggotry. I knew that most people would scream OSAOSAOSA.

Lol! Haven't you realised yet? There's just something about your posts that draws in any faggotry that happens to be buzzing around downwind...

_You_ · Dec 7, 2009

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_You_;1093958 said:

Please continue to ignore my post and my ideas

Lol! Please learn to switch off either your ego, or anonymous posting.

_You_ · Dec 7, 2009

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My post said nothing about OSA, but now knowing that herro started the thread, OSAOSAOSAOSAOSA!

Herro · Dec 7, 2009

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_You_;1093968 said:

My post said nothing about OSA, but now knowing that herro started the thread, OSAOSAOSAOSAOSA!

Yeah, you weren't the only one posting in this thread cupcake. I found that link as well when i did my lurking.

_You_ · Dec 7, 2009

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Herro;1094005 said:

Yeah, you weren't the only one posting in this thread cupcake. I found that link as well when i did my lurking.

There are more than one of us who are posting that we didn't say anything about OSA.

_You_ · Dec 7, 2009

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It's not implausible that I didn't say anything about OSA.

WTF · Dec 7, 2009

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Herro;1093947 said:

Lol shit, forgot to check Anon. Well anyways. Look, someone on IRC put this link up, someone who is on IRC all the time. So I licked the ling and found it interesting to say the least. Did some lurking and found that there is very little clear info about this out there. Decided to post it here hoping somebody had more infos. Didn't want to post as Herro because I wanted to avoid the ZOMG HERRO faggotry. I knew that most people would scream OSAOSAOSA. But I was hoping at least one person here might have some actual information about this showing it to be bogus. I guess I was mistaken. Oh well, such is life.

Can we scream "lame ass mod" instead?

WTF · Dec 7, 2009

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_You_;1093956 said:

Here's one post not screeching OSA with information about an interview of Carolyn Meinel where she mentions her first husband Keith Henson and what she says is really pretty positive IMO. There were many ways Meinel could have answered that question without even mentioning Henson.

I don't think it's OSA, I think it's daughters who for some reason have the balls to post what would be the most horrible part of their lives on the internet, but didn't have the balls to take their father to court or to protect their younger half-sister while she lived under the same roof as the man who alledgedly molested them and two other girls.

This could also be part of the "false memory syndrome" prevalent with wog counselors in the 90s. There was a whole town (Wenatchee WA/rogue dumbass reporter Tom Grant) that went nutso on "look who molested me" in the 90s. Rampant abberation is rampant aberration.

_You_ · Dec 7, 2009

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_You_;1093956 said:

I don't think it's OSA, I think it's daughters who for some reason have the balls to post what would be the most horrible part of their lives on the internet, but didn't have the balls to take their father to court or to protect their younger half-sister while she lived under the same roof as the man who alledgedly molested them and two other girls.

Other than on Valerie's site, is there anywhere that says any other daughters support her story?

I could put up a site saying that the Mormon Tabernacle Choir supports me. Just saying.

_You_ · Dec 7, 2009

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Where's Roberta Steinberg when we need her?

isupeonedDavidmiscaviage · Dec 7, 2009

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Cult implants false memories. + Cult dead agents =OSA Wether you are not OSA or not the info is OSA and you have AIDS. Unfortunately a lot of exes still haven't found their feet on planet earth after having their head fucked. Doesn't mean you spread AIDS.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D67kmFzSh_o&feature=related"]YouTube- David Bowie- Space Oddity Original Video (1969)[/ame]

Herro · Dec 7, 2009

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isupeonedDavidmiscaviage;1094194 said:

Cult implants false memories. + Cult dead agents =OSA Wether you are not OSA or not the info is OSA and you have AIDS. Unfortunately a lot of exes still haven't found their feet on planet earth after having their head fucked. Doesn't mean you spread AIDS.
YouTube- David Bowie- Space Oddity Original Video (1969)

So you're saying that OSA put false memories of being raped into his daughter's head? Ok, it's time to let this thread die. Mods if you would be so kind can you move this to YSOSRS and let it rot?

WTF · Dec 7, 2009

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isupeonedDavidmiscaviage;1094194 said:

Cult implants false memories. + Cult dead agents =OSA Wether you are not OSA or not the info is OSA and you have AIDS. Unfortunately a lot of exes still haven't found their feet on planet earth after having their head fucked. Doesn't mean you spread AIDS.
YouTube- David Bowie- Space Oddity Original Video (1969)

Oh no, not me...

isupeonedDavidmiscaviage · Dec 7, 2009

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daughter exists? dox.

isupeonedDavidmiscaviage · Dec 7, 2009

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found his ex- wife.

eddieVroom · Dec 7, 2009

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attackgypsy;1093486 said:

Messy divorces. Many, these things get so nasty. And so self destructive.

Buddy of mine caught his wife cheating on him. Started divorce proceedings.

He had a federal firearms dealer permit. He owned a gun shop. This was how he made his living. And he made a good living at it. Not a single violation in 10 years of doing business.

His wife got nasty, and decided to punish him. She told her lawyer she was "afraid he was going to hurt her because he was always around guns".

Lawyer got a judge, who knew nothing about the case, to issue a restraining order.

The business, that he spent 10 years building, was gone. And he had no chance of recouping his losses. He lost his federal firearms permit, and was required to turn in every single firearm in his possession (the entire store stock) to the police to be destroyed. This is over $100k worth of stock.

For years this dragged on. Finally the order was lifted. But not after the business had folded. And it was all done out of spite.

Yeah, divorces are nasty things.

^^ TRUFAX ^^

eddieVroom · Dec 7, 2009

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Herro;1093915 said:

Sup OP here. Wow. So I agree that whether or not Hensen diddled little kids has no bearing upon his criticism of Scientology. I just thought this site had some pretty fucked up accusations and wondered whether or not there is anything to them. The blowback against this question is hilarious. I still have not seen anybody do anything other than scream OSA. I guess nobody has any relevant information?

My feeling has always been that Keith wants to speak out, but is under some legal threat that restrains him. For all we know, he may have made up some pedo "confession" during auditing, and the rondroids gave the Ex a copy of the session for leverage.

eddieVroom · Dec 7, 2009

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WTF;1094068 said:

This could also be part of the "false memory syndrome" prevalent with wog counselors in the 90s. There was a whole town (Wenatchee WA/rogue dumbass reporter Tom Grant) that went nutso on "look who molested me" in the 90s. Rampant abberation is rampant aberration.

Well, we seem to take it for granted that people routinely "mock up" past lives, the Space Opera, BTs etc...

WTF · Dec 7, 2009

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eddieVroom;1094255 said:

My feeling has always been that Keith wants to speak out, but is under some legal threat that restrains him. For all we know, he may have made up some pedo "confession" during auditing, and the rondroids gave the Ex a copy of the session for leverage.

Keith never received auditing afaik.

eddieVroom · Dec 8, 2009

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WTF;1094262 said:

Keith never received auditing afaik.

Oh? My Bad. I thought Keith was an Ex. He seemed to have too damn good a handle on nuances of scientology for a non-member when I met him.

isupeonedDavidmiscaviage · Dec 8, 2009

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He nor his daughters were scinos (i actually had to read that site !!!OP!!!) So he prob is pedo. Don't leave your daughters with him and continue marching...

_You_ · Dec 8, 2009

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isupeonedDavidmiscaviage;1094284 said:

He nor his daughters were scinos (i actually had to read that site !!!OP!!!) So he prob is pedo. Don't leave your daughters with him and continue marching...

The infinitesimally small value of your summary judgment based on the internet testimony from a moonbat daughter of a moonbat mother and father is noted. Feel free to exercise your choice, Peadofinder General

ChronicEnturbulator · Dec 8, 2009

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Who cares about Keith?! Because everyone who has been accused of molestation is clearly guilty... Open-and-shut, no fancy-smancy trial needed.

What I want to know is: DID HERRO RAPE AND KILL A GIRL IN 1990?!

herro (and none the mods who post under the herro account) has/have not ONCE denied raping and killing a girl in 1990!

_You_ · Dec 8, 2009

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ChronicEnturbulator;1094307 said:

herro (and none the mods who post under the herro account)

Herro · Dec 9, 2009

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ChronicEnturbulator;1094307 said:

Who cares about Keith?! Because everyone who has been accused of molestation is clearly guilty... Open-and-shut, no fancy-smancy trial needed.

What I want to know is: DID HERRO RAPE AND KILL A GIRL IN 1990?!

herro (and none the mods who post under the herro account) has/have not ONCE denied raping and killing a girl in 1990!

_You_ · Dec 9, 2009

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ChronicEnturbulator;1094307 said:

[What I want to know is: DID HERRO RAPE AND KILL A GIRL IN 1990?!

Herro did not kill a girl in 1990.

YAHRLY · Dec 9, 2009

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OP here, I am sorry I even started this thread

_You_ · Dec 9, 2009

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YAHRLY;1096284 said:

OP here, I am sorry I even started this thread

PEDO Bear approves of this buggery.

_You_ · Dec 9, 2009

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YAHRLY;1096284 said:

OP here, I am sorry I even started this thread

<OT>

I am not. I am glad that you did, purely for my own selfish reasons though.

I've found it easy to stand up to some incredibly difficult people, and easy to protest the human rights abuses of a cult that frightens me nonetheless. It's not so easy to stand up to family.

I was molested by my stepdad when I was 14. I have never said anything to anyone.

Thanks to this thread and a few incredibly blunt statements, I feel the shame of keeping my mouth closed for so long. That is going to change over the next few weeks. I have learned a lot from Anonymous in the last two years, but today thanks to them I have a steel rod in my spine instead of a limp noodle. I can't forgive him because I can't forget.

</OT>

LocalSP · Dec 9, 2009

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eddieVroom;1094255 said:

My feeling has always been that Keith wants to speak out, but is under some legal threat that restrains him. For all we know, he may have made up some pedo "confession" during auditing, and the rondroids gave the Ex a copy of the session for leverage.

He may have made up or even made some such confession but trust me if he had it would have been leaked by the CoS by now, if it in fact such a thing exists.

_You_ · Dec 9, 2009

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hmm... yet another scientologist molests children, interesting, very interesting...

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