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Rathbun in Hamburg - Events Updates

Discussion in 'Independent Scientology' started by Anonymous, Sep 3, 2011.

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  1. Diablo Member

    This may be a bit optismistic but the best thing that could come out of this is an Interpol Arrest Warrant for a tiny midget with a huge butt plug.
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  2. Krautfag Member

    Since only media is admitted, probably have a banner outside "Fragen zu Marty Rathbun? Wir antworten!" :D
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  3. TinyDancer Member

    Ah, I love you Hamburganons.

    Perhaps with some notice Ursula might allow an Anonymous media correspondent or two?
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  4. Miranda Member

    I understand the appeal of the fantasy. But WWP doesn't promote illegal activity. Just making that clear.
  5. Smurf Member

    You've been around a long time, mirele. You know the score and you know the cult, historically, never learns from it's bad judgement & monumental foot-bullets. I remember the years when you called me out for "absolutely, utterly and completely reprehensible" behavior when I was taking orders from OSA. I doubt the Squirrel Busters will be in Hamburg as OSA is quite aware what the reception for them would be.

    I suspect Rick Moxon, Monique Yingling & the top leaders of Scientology-Germany will be there to attempt to disrupt the meeting and fully propagandize the affair with their usual references to Nazism, religious extremism, Germany's record of human rights violations, etc. etc. Of course, no one but the mindfucked Scilon and whatever outside apologists the cult brings in to the mix, will fall for the cult tactics.
  6. Anonymous Member

    Hey you're right, my bad. I wasn't really promoting the idea of assaulting the creeps - mostly they're innocent victims, I guess I was just expressing surprise that more folk haven't attacked them.

    Trufax.
  7. moarxenu Member

    Death By 1000 Papercuts wrote a long article on Ursula's conference on September 4, 2008, to which she invited Anonymous. It quotes anon0004s raid report:

    Church of Scientology and Anonymous: Guess Which Group Didn’t get Invite to German Seminar

    Anonymous was officially and formally invited. The Ministry of Interior of Hamburg sent a formal invitation. There were then negotiations before Anon accepted the invitation. According to a knowledgeable source the negotiations went like this:

    Anon: Can we come with masks?
    Ministry: lol yes.

    I am looking forward to lulz about what OSA spais are going to be up to regardless of what anyone thinks about Marty.

    Do us proud Hamburg fags.

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  8. TinyDancer Member

    Much hilarity ensued.
  9. Miranda Member

    Yeah, I'm just covering the bases. It is surprising. Although they're surprisingly aggressive--maybe that catches people off-guard.
  10. Smurf Member

    Marty is a functioning narcissist. I believe Marty is convinced that he can handle Ursula in the same way he handles his adoring Indies. I talked to Ursula years ago and if I'd had been asked if she could be handled back then, I'd say "fuck no". But time and events can change a person & their perceptions. I don't know if Ursula's perceptions of Scientology has changed or not. I hope not.

    When the German government flew me over to discuss the cult & Mike Rinder, I was convinced the German government & the courts were on the fast track to eject the disease from their borders. That has not been the case, and since then, the German courts have rendered decisions favorable to the cult.

    I hope the courts rulings which suggest that some German judges are highly ignorant of the cult's past.. or intimidated by the cult.. or simply doesn't care... hasn't influenced Ursula in any way. I guess we'll get the answers later this week after Marty speaks.
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  11. Anonymous Member

    Mark Bunker made reference to it in an earlier thread, where Mark said he talked to Marty about the incident and he forgave Marty for this and alot more.
  12. mongrel Member

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  13. Miranda Member

    Contemporaneous: At the same time

    Extemporaneous: Spontaneous, without rehearsal
  14. LocalSP Member

    Fuck Marty and Bunker and his forgiveness. Anon does not forget or forgive. Marty needs to be accountable for his actions and the grief that he caused. I hope that the German anons are allowed in and get to ask questions of Marty.
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  15. Anonymous Member

    One thing is for sure - the clams are nowhere near as physically aggressive as they used to be.

    Some might say they are scared, no longer do they have safety in numbers, now that their numbers are so diminished.

    And nobody wants to start trouble near an org that they are left alone in for days at a time...
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  16. Ackerland Member

    I am sure on this. She has not.

    It was pretty mixed. There were some rulings in favor of the Scientology organisation, and against it.

    Legal battle isn't as easy and clear-cut. The hurdles for the banning of an organisation are very high in Germany. The problem is that the cult very well knows how to stay on the legal side with much of its despicable practices, while sweeping the illegal stunts under the rug by means of blackmail and social engineering.

    Even Marty will not be able to deliver the magic pill that will enable the German interior minister to ban the cult. What he may accomplish to do is make it clear to foreign relations personnel (and hopefully US personnel) that the Scientology organisation is an organisation that is to be fought by any constitutional means.
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  17. exOT8Michael Member

    LOL this reminds me of DM's favorite non English language word: "irregardless". """Snickers"""
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  18. Smurf Member

    I do, too. I'm betting Marty would refuse to answer questions that made him uncomfortable. Would Ursula step in & object to questions that make MR unhappy or uncomfortable? I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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  19. Smurf Member

    I'm curious whether Moxon & Monique Ding-a-ling will try the same bullshit they tried with Headley & Beghe.. get a court order preventing Marty from speaking?
  20. Yeah the same way he used that Hubbard Tech to handle that cop in New Orleans

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    Sure anyone can get shitfaced on Bourbon Street in New Orleans and end up back in their hotel room, thousands of people do it every day, but it takes some real OT Powers to get your ass thrown in jail as a result of it. Marty is going to give Germany a taste of those amazing OT Powers.
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  21. Miranda Member

    Part of what makes him so grating to listen to (or read).
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  22. LocalSP Member

    I will bet dollars to donuts that as a stipulation to Marty's speaking, he told Ursula no anons and no questions.
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  23. Anonymous Member

    Like he's got a choice. Ursula isn't about to exclude anons because of that moonbat.
  24. amaX Member

    It is my fervent hope that Ursula has invited Hana Whitfield to the party so she can educate Rinderburn about Hubbard.
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  25. Anonymous Member

    but with calm intelligent points and debate, repsectful of the people and institution that provides the forum in the first place.
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  26. Anonymous Member

    ^typo, lol. "respectful" no repsectful.
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  27. Krautfag Member

    We really should get factual on that German Government thing. Ursula works for the State of Freie und Hansestadt Hamburg, which is comparable to lets say the State of New York (without Albany, but nobody knows where or what Albany is anyway). It's quite likely that the Verfassungsschutz Hamburg ( Verfassungsschutz is organized statewise, with a coordinating Federal Office) will have people talk to Marty at some point. There will be an upstream of information to the Federal level, but it ain't more, just info floating around. In how far that does influence governmental decisions depends much the personal political view of the beholder ;)

    The judge wouldn't even start procedures on such a request due to lack of law. Under German law even a civil gag agreement would be nonenforceable and only produce civil litigation, cause restrictions to the Grundrecht der freien Meinungäußerung (basic right of speech) are few. The only legal restriction in Germany on that is spreading Nationalsocialist propaganda and calling for violence. It would need a State Prosecutor to raise charges for that also, civil claims or titles can not produce that outcome. And even in the criminal cases it takes the Constitutional Court to uphold verdicts regarding these issues.
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  28. Nicely put. Is your sig MC900 ft. Jesus?
  29. Um, in Sydney Australia they are getting worse... What they appear to be doing now is putting pressure on the publics to get aggressive. So if something happens, management are not going to get into trouble.
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  30. eddieVroom Member

    But they execute retards in Texas.

    No, wait...
  31. DeathHamster Member

    They'll send that idiot woman from LA (North?) to stand in the doorway, stick up a "Marty Rathbun not allowed in here" sign, and tell him that he can't come in.
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  32. mirele Member

    I think you're right--but I also think Little Napoleon is crazed and obsessed with Marty right now. This may lead to some interesting situations. I won't call them lulz, but it could lead to that. I'd be amused if Germany decided to deport Rick "Unindicted Coconspirator" Moxon as an undesirable alien. Unfortunately that's not likely to happen, but a girl can dream, right?
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  33. Yep.... That would be Noelle North.....

    Local legend has it that Mz North was a former B actress turned Scientologist Skank / Citizens Commission for Human Rights hypocritical supporter ...........

    I'll chip in for airfare to send her to Germany to lock out Marty.........
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  34. Triumph Member

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    from Martyrs current Nag(Blog)post

    Germany-Europe and Human Rights

    ebil SP enemies! behind the grassy knoll!

    trust me! drink more Kool-Aid!

    oh No's! merchants of chaos!
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  35. Miranda Member

    What do you mean, "covert"?!!
  36. LocalSP Member

    Marty is now in paranoid Hubbard territory. lol.
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  37. Miranda Member

    Yes, it does sound that way. (Meeting tonight in the clubhouse to plan CPC's. Shhhhh!)
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  38. LocalSP Member

    The wet dove flies at midnight.
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  39. Miranda Member

    The owls are not what they seem. Fire, walk with me.
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  40. Anonymous Member

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