I just noticed that they put LRH next to Einstein. Now whenever I think of Einstein I will think of LRH the DDP (pc for retard).
I can't help but feeling that each of the personages on the cover, including the dinosaur, is Hubbard in drag.
Corrections need on the first link: accidentally the first quote twice and quotes on post #92 missing
Updated with above feedback (Thx!) and put in a better order: LRH & Scientology Quotes on Abrahamic Beliefs
bump 4 Updated & Improved version on Hubbard vs. Religion related quotes now here: LRH & Scientology Quotes on Abrahamic Beliefs ^^This is the 1st of 5 of indices of Hubbardspeak quote documentation i got in the works for my comparitive religion research/info packs project. The other ones are not as fully developed, but here's some early draft copy awhile: LRH & Scientology Quotes on Other Major Religions and Systems of Belief LRH & Scientology Quotes on Buddha & Eastern Belief Systems Other topical indices of quotes that are not far enough along yet to be worth sharing: New Age Gnosticism, & Other Philosophers & Their Achievements
Cult leader Osho/Bhagwan Rajneesh: "L. Ron Hubbard's work is psychological, it is not spiritual. To clear the mind is a psychological work: to drop the mind is a spiritual revolution. Clearing the mind you remain attached to the mind, and howsoever you clear it, it remains. Hubbard's work is very ordinary; it should be part of the psychological literature. But in the West people have forgotten completely what spirituality is all about; hence it is very easy to deceive." http://www.messagefrommasters.com/Osho/osho/Osho-on-Ron-Hubbard-Work.html "In 1981 Rajneesh's cult purchased a dilapidated ranch in Oregon, U.S., which became the site of Rajneeshpuram, a community of several thousand orange-robed disciples. Rajneesh was widely criticized by outsiders for his private security force and his ostentatious display of wealth. By 1985 many of his most trusted aides had abandoned the movement, which was under investigation for multiple felonies including arson, attempted murder, drug smuggling, and vote fraud in the nearby town of Antelope. In 1985 Rajneesh pleaded guilty to immigration fraud and was deported from the United States. He was refused entry by 21 countries before returning to Pune, where his ashram soon grew to 15,000 members. In later years he took the Buddhist title Osho and altered his teaching on unrestricted sexual activity because of his growing concern over AIDS." http://www.apologeticsindex.org/b40.html
Though Rajneesh was a cult leader he is correct about Scientology being solely psychological. This is straight Buddhist orthodoxy. Spirituality is non-attachment to ego-based desires, the reactive and analytical minds, and any other kind of mind. Getting free of such attachment is the constant hard work of a lifetime. This is what enlightenment means and is at the core of all authentic spirituality right across all the great world faith traditions - Christians like John of the Cross; Jews like the Hassidic rabbis; Muslims like Rumi; Hindus like Krishnamurti; and Buddhists like Dogen Zenji. Spiritual freedom lies solely in this and not in having unusual psychic experiences and certainly not in the acquistion of psychic powers. Chogyam Trungpa called this Spiritual Materialism. It is the state religion of Marin County. This is the main argument why Scientology is not an authentic religion. The cult equates spiritual freedom with the acquisition of psychic powers and complete and enslaving attachment to the Church of Scientology. It doesn't matter how many characteristics on a list from the IRS or sociologists of religion the cult can check off. It is still spiritual materialism. The great Indian Jesuit teacher of spirituality Anthony de Mello writes in The Way To Love: "You can get someone to teach you things mechanical or scientific or mathematical like algebra or English or riding a bicycle or operating a computer. But in the things that really matter, life, love, reality, God, no one can teach you a thing, All they can give you is formulas." Scientology is nothing but formulas. In fact, Scientology is the most materialistic of any belief system that purports to be an authentic religion. Not only does it charge $500,000 for its fee-for-service spiritual freedom, but at every step of the way the promise is made of greater psychological power to handle life situations better. Non-attachment means no attachment to any thing or any set of beliefs about anything. "L. Ron Hubbard is a dried shit stick" and "If you see L. Ron Hubbard on the road kill him" are not Scientology koans.
uh no. imo - that is NOT the way to address the religion angle. Imma going for more of an open comparison of materials / lil to no opinion nor spin presented / decide for yourself if it qualifies as a religion...and while u be deciding for yourself, excuse us while we make it easy for you to explore multiple angles in multiple veins of interests on variety of levels so that you can look at it from any which way you want. The terms "Religion" and "Cult" are both EXTREMELY subjective, and therefore entirely based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions. So i feel strongly it is NOT our place to tell people how they should personally think/feel/judge the religiosity of Scientology - that would be spreading propaganda to force our opinions on others, AND not empowering wider more informed awareness. So what I'd rather do is layout a well organized smorgasbord of evidence that anyone with any common flavor of religious interests can fully explore (at whatever depth they wish) and decide for themselves. ^^This way we ENABLE greater awareness, better scholarship, and stronger yet well-informed opinions all while leveraging the massive amount of dox we have brought forth for indepth public consumption & wider distribution. So all I'm looking to do in my summer project is produce a fair usage compilation dox campaign. And thus level up the info war game for ground not yet fully plowed, planted, pwnd and harvested. Altho granted - i do soon need to start a dedicated thread somewhere for this active project. But FWIW I haven't done so yet because i still strongly support the Chanology tenet that Anons DO NOT protest Scientology's religious beliefs - just their abusive practices. So i thought it was best to get the first couple of volumes of my religiosity research/info packs published, so that i can show exactly what I'm doing (and NOT doing) on the "Anonymous Delivers" front... before starting a dedicated thread where a gazillion opinions about "religion" could easily run wild. ETA on the initial publications & new dedicated thread in the Education forum = no later than 1week after Labor Day holiday weekend (so roughly Sept 10/11th). Meanwhile, WTF is up with all this Ragheadkneeshee in mai Bible thread?!?!?!? (LOL /facepalm)
Heaven's Gate Cult Leader Marshall applewhite: "Applewhite described their human bodies as 'the temporary containers of the soul…The final act of metamorphosis or separation from the human kingdom is the 'disconnect' or separation from the human physical container or body in order to be released from the human environment”. http://historicmysteries.com/heavens-gate-cult "David Miscavige states that all of the OT research was completed by LRH up to OT15 and that LRH had to discard his body to move on to further OT" researchhttp://littledoubt.wordpress.com/lrh-death/
Oh Hai! I sees ur one missed batshit-insane-bible-booklet leak, and raise you one missed oh-shi-i-needz-it leak... any chance u got sum Class VIII Course Pack to re-up from yer leak library? (my leak library is missing that one and i badly need an original copy of HCO Bulletin of 23 September 1968 - C O N F I D E N T I A L RESISTIVE CASES: FORMER THERAPY -> not in the Tech Vols) Because of a research dox compilation project spawned from the leak in OP, Imma searching for original copies of all the juicy anti-religious-spiel HCOBs & HCOPLs liek ^^That hard2find confidential one, which are commonly cited & sought out. See also - most excellent old thread relevant to these same interests AND related dox: Scientology Incompatible with MY Christianity?! EDIT: plus this classic MeowMacao sauce too: MIRROR OF DR. LILLY VON MARCAB: PROOF that Scientology is not compatible with Christianity
90days later, 30pages of planning, 20 pages of publication templates, 131 individual leak files + the assistance of 4 anons, 3 Exes and 2 other folks... Volume 1 (of atleast 9 total) of my retrospective reckoning is finally done, and about to be unleashed. Stay tuned to the "Active Projects" subforum and/or the master collection of dox on scribd. Butt Church is gonna reap what they sowed, so help me God. Reckoning begins today, and will last until the end of this year as all the other volumes get released. One God 1 Luv. Scientology Lacks Both. EDIT - Official Project Thread Posted Here: Scientology Religiosity? (Research Packets & Dox)
bump... a new mirror of this delicious leak has shown up on scribd: http://www.scribd.com/doc/63517403/Scientology-and-the-Bible-1967-Booklet
Since this thread was bumped for no apparent reason, the scribd link below is still working, but links in OP are dead.
That's a different Peter Green. The one who did that illustration is an artists in L.A. who's done a lot of movie posters. The one debriefed is I believe from New York.
Anonymous, do you think that there is a global Jewish conspiracy to rule the world? Do you think Siontology was created to further this agenda?
‘Scientology and the Bible’ By Tony Ortega, April 1, 2016 An academic researcher has reached out to us, asking if we can help find anyone who knows about an odd 1967 pamphlet put out by the Church of Scientology titled “Scientology and the Bible.” It has a number of authors listed (none of whom is L. Ron Hubbard), and its subtitle is “A manifest paralleling the discoveries of Scientology by L Ron Hubbard with the Holy Scriptures.” It appears to have been produced in Melbourne. [UPDATE: It makes a reference to Melbourne on a title page, but was apparently produced in Scotland.] If there are any oldtimers who know something about this unusual work, please get in touch with us. [UPDATE: Thank you to the people offering to send us a copy, but we don’t need it. The researcher wants to know the story behind its production.] Source and comments: http://tonyortega.org/2016/04/01/au...logist-needs-to-learn-for-real-total-freedom/
HELP REQUESTED: Does anyone know about pamphlet "Scientology and the Bible" from 1967? From Tony Ortega: http://tonyortega.org/2016/04/01/au...logist-needs-to-learn-for-real-total-freedom/ * * * * * BEGIN EXCERPT * * * * * ‘Scientology and the Bible’ An academic researcher has reached out to us, asking if we can help find anyone who knows about an odd 1967 pamphlet put out by the Church of Scientology titled “Scientology and the Bible.” It has a number of authors listed (none of whom is L. Ron Hubbard), and its subtitle is “A manifest paralleling the discoveries of Scientology by L Ron Hubbard with the Holy Scriptures.” It appears to have been produced in Melbourne. [UPDATE: It makes a reference to Melbourne on a title page, but was apparently produced in Scotland.] If there are any oldtimers who know something about this unusual work, please get in touch with us. [UPDATE: Thank you to the people offering to send us a copy, but we don’t need it. The researcher wants to know the story behind its production.] * * * * * END EXCERPT * * * * * Please respond to Tony Ortega on his blog, via twitter or e-mail. EDITED TO ADD: Scientology and the Bible booklet (58 pages) http://www.scribd.com/doc/306623052/Scientology-and-the-Bible-1967-Booklet
EDITED TO ADD: Scientology and the Bible booklet (58 pages) http://www.scribd.com/doc/306623052/Scientology-and-the-Bible-1967-Booklet
This was mentioned nine hours earlier in the existing thread, here: https://whyweprotest.net/threads/scientology-and-the-bible-1967.88482/page-4#post-2578191
