Paging Boz to the white phone: I'm looking for a closing segment for Volume II in this project where I get into some stuff on Bible Old Testament & Judaism stuff. And I think you might be able to hook me up... Once upon a time, in a Israel-related shitstorm thread, you mentioned an Israel report on Scientology of some sort that you were gonna try and translate when you had time. Any chance you could pull out & translate me just a short excerpt of something worth using from that sauce? I'm looking for a short piece of content along the lines of showing that Jews dont like Scientology either, if possible. anything in the range of approx 2-10pages would work great if you can mange that. (and if so - TIA!)
Hey there, The report I mentioned is from 1987. I definitely need to translate what I promissed you [I haven't been very reliable, sorry]. Currently a couple of friends are visiting from Europe, so I'm totally tied up, as usual. But I will get to this report, thanks for reminding me. I need to be nagged sometimes, seriously.
'87 is a good vintage - thanks for keeping it on the backburner. And if it helps any, I'd be happy just to get a portion of it, excerpts work just fine in a materials catalogue.
missed deadline 2of2, check! I'm nearly back on track after derailing to split up the original Volume 2 materials & inserting the newly redefined Volume 3 into the series gameplan. Latest greatest stuff, now updated here: Scientology Religiosity? Materials Index From the latest change log comment: Initial release of Volume II should be coming this weekend, I just need find a suitable closing segment and then I can begin the tedious process of setting up & spinning the next major PDF.
i might be imagining this cuz i cant seem to find it... Anybody remember some recent buzz that passed thru WWP within past couple months, related to the first evar significant Islamic criticism towards Scientology? (NOT NOI related... straight up legit Islam, and all i get in searchfu is NOI stuff)
can a gal get an egg sammich... with lots of delicious sage and side of jstor? /r/ someone with premium library/school access hook me up with leaks of these classic academic works: 1) Title: SCIENTOLOGY - THERAPEUTIC CULT TO RELIGIOUS SECT Author(s): WALLIS R Source: SOCIOLOGY-THE JOURNAL OF THE BRITISH SOCIOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION Volume: 9 Issue: 1 (1975) Pages: 89-100 DOI: 10.1177/003803857500900105 http://soc.sagepub.com/content/9/1/89.abstract 2) Title: Mysticism and Intense Experiences Author(s): Nils G. Holm Source: Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion Vol. 21, No. 3 (Sep., 1982), pp. 268-276 http://www.jstor.org/pss/1385891 TIA & <3 <3 <3
Yes, there are some tantalizing cites of it. Silencing the Voices: The Church of Scientology’s Justifications to Keep its Critics Quiet - by Karen Pressley
Bump 4 latest greatest project outline w/ a flurry of updates added for pulling together the final bits of Volumes II & III for publication: Scientology Religiosity? Materials Index From the change log note in the document's comments on Scribd: ETA on Vol2 initial release - late Friday nite if all goes well w/ getting digi prepress setup done this week (knock on wood). Then Vol3 the following weekend. Also - still hoping for a library access leakage hookup on the couple of classic academic works noted upstream if some studentfag out there can throw me a bone plox - i shall <3 U looooong time.
Scientology Religiosity? Volume II :: Judeo-Christian, Semitic, Persian & Islamic Beliefs is underway. Initial prepress setups is nao done, and the first run of raw content generation gave me 187 total pages to groom & refine into a thing of beauty. But I haz a question for fellow researchfag & leakhorder peeps. From Dr. Kent's classic essay that I've excerpted for my opening segment in this volume... The Creation of 'Religious' Scientology (Pub'd in Religious Studies and Theology 18 No. 2 (December 1999): 97-126) The endnotes list these two items that have sparked my interest: I don't recall ever seeing a copy/leak of these "Associate Newsletter" dox. Can anybody point me towards the fulltext version somewhere? Or better yet - hook me up with a copy plox? (Hit me on PMs for confidential leaker relay)
so sorry for delay sir/ma'am, promise it'll never happen again *backs away slowly and respectfully* View attachment images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZO_amXoh1ZYVIUx8PuA8VtJ66WVFm8
(snaps whip) And just where do you think your going? Mai sammich is late and it's missing sage & jstor delishness. Your nao my captive until at least sum small portion of proper dox are served.
The jester isn't in his quarters sir/ma'am, he's taken the day off to visit his mum in the countryside. But here, I've brought you this, fresh from the fields. Smells loverly, don't it? View attachment images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSyMFRc-LjvCB9usXbYyehxb2ZsEgush
Partial Academix Dox gotten, still jonesing bigtime for the Wallis sage pub tho... ^^Fileshare from yet another helpful birdie in yonder gardens: http://www.mediafire.com/?c65wqx5ix6fcnye Keep 'em coming guise. imma getting my dox burning groove on tonight
Volume II rough cut rough draft sneak preview haz been sent around to my project support group contacts for constructive feedback & suggestions from fellow researchfag & christfag peeps lending their halps to this project. Lurkers likewise interested in a sneak peak of the next publication in raw draft form can grab it here: http://www.mediafire.com/?xe0w1qav0464f55 NOT Done yet: Culling thru nigh on 50pgs of my series notebook scrawlings for compiling the front & backmatter stuff, plus subsection bookmark labeling. If anyone haz comments/suggestions to offer on finalizing this, plz contact me via PM or Email so I can get ya in my private channel loop of informal look-see / nit pick / peer review commenters. ETA on finalized public domain release of Vol II - probably late tmo nite or Sunday.
shameless bump for moar christfag hands on deck for moar feedback, especially on my xbox hueg quotations segment where all my scripture comparisons need 2nd set of eyes chking for logical correlations.
bump for juicy tidbit i seen pass thru recent VV comments that has sparked my interests: http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/11/scientology_sun.php#comment-357002638 DO WANT these so-called "The Minister's Mock-Up" based on the "religious image check sheet" dox. Can somebody point me in the right direction to grab up this stuff (or share a copy ITT) for future use? TIA!
"We do more good in any ten minutes of this planet's time than the combined efforts of all social ministries on Earth to better mankind." HCOB 5 November 1967 Published in "Winning" magazine
Check with your leak source. That per Check with your leak source; that person should either have it or point you in the right direction. Also, check the very old Minister's book, used to become an "official" ordained Scientology Minister. I don't think its in the new, fat, large Ministers book, but in the very old thin book that didn't have a lot of pages. I believe both books were leaked long ago somewhere.
^^Thx - will do, when I move on to Volume III. Meanwhile, Volume II is so much bigger than Volume I that I'm still slugging my way thru compiling the backmatter pages. Thus I don't have a final version released yet. (But the frontmatter is done, and I put a lot more time into polishing up the core content subsections w/ swapping pages in and out & fixing cosmetic nits than I expected).
I would love to see them myself, but I haven't seen anywhere that they surfaced. Hopefully they were presented at the 1983 Clearwater Hearing and attached to the Emmons Report, but it might all be based on oral testimony from Edward Walters.
http://www.lermanet.com/LRonHubbard2.htm The Church of Scientology is currently engaged in a nationwide conspiracy to impede and obstruct municipal, state and federal taxing authorities, by adopting a religious and charitable guise to avoid payment of taxes. "Scientology's internal policies state: "They (the public) want ministers. We will show them what ministers look like" (Vol. 1 p.41). "Churches are looked upon as reform groups. Therefore, we must act like a reform group" (Vol.1 p.196). "Scientology has nothing to do with religion. The Church did not adopt the religious guise until it was necessary to seek First Amendment protection (Vol.4 p.405). "Scientology uses a religious image checklist designed to falsely portray a religious image to mislead officials (Vol. 2 p.238,239). "Church policy instructs members to lie to inquiring officials (Vol.1 p.226,227). Re: Israel Is this what u were looking for? Benjamin Beit-Hallahmi , University of Haifa, Israel in the Marbourg Journal of Religion: Scientology: Religion or racket?: http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/MarburgJournalofReligion092003-2.htm
Scientology Religiosity? Volume II: Judeo-Christian, Semitic, Persian & Islamic Beliefs On Scribd: http://www.scribd.com/doc/72603383/Scientology-Religiosity-Volume-II Fileshare: http://www.mediafire.com/?mp4lsaupkct4spt Quotations only: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9hwLoP07dRxZTliOGQwNmEtMWU2Yy00NDhkLTlhZDYtZDAwZjJkMjdmMjAz Sidenotes: This 2nd volume was much bigger than the 1st volume (just over 200pgs). So my apologies for those who were waiting on it for various sekrit uses... it took me a lot longer than expected. Next up - a 3rd edition of Volume I with additional recently leaked material (that will make the sizes comparable), followed by Volume III that's already 75-80% done. Cheers! (brb - breaking out booze to celebrate)
^^Hard to believe my timing was purrrfect... i got dox drop done, loaded spread & celebratory beer popped with 5mins to spare before the next installment of SPTimes bomb dropping hit. heh.
Bump to note Imma still longing for a studentfag to come to my rescue and give me a ^^Big fatty gift that the researchfag in me can fap ovar for a long time. Especially since i recently paid my community college alumni dues just to get full library access where ID card required, and much to my dismay - they dont have a sagepub institution subscription available for open use
The aftermath of the Volume II initial release + plus all the recently leaked stuff I've culled, now rolled into a major update on the project outline document... Scientology Religiosity? Materials Index Latest change log comment
SAGE!!! I HAZ SUM! Scientology: Therapeutic Cult to Religious Sect (Wallis) Alternate Fileshare: http://www.mediafire.com/?1o7ged4ccd4p8am
Just now getting a chance to fully read this gem... and the reference to Hubbard attacking nay sayers being akin to Mrs Eddy is extremely poignant (in addition to sounding lulzy) and oh so relevant for the specific time period this was written in. He's politely referring to the common gripes against the early founders of Christian Science Mary Baker Eddy. Relevent backstory summarized nicely here: Mary "Faker" Eddy and the Cult of Christian Science However, in modern day context - the huge difference in Hubbard's cult vs. Eddy's early cultic movement is that her institution morphed, evolved and shed its vengeful ways once that bitch died. Hubbard's didnt, and instead just continued on with the downward spiral to degradation and criminal behavior that he started.
(drumroll) with all the time i had this week while being left hanging by the SPTimes (psssfffttt), I got an updated Volume 1 re-rolled to make the perfect matched set with Volume 2. Scientology Religiosity? Volume I Alternate Fileshare: http://www.mediafire.com/?3snddmka0it979u From the latest changelog comment... Newly added stuffers include excerpts from the juicy OSA WINNING newsletters, recent Advance Mags, and New Student Hat leakage. (Oh Zhent, how I <3 Thee!) Enjoy! The full set of publications and supporting dox here: Scientology Religiosity? Collection
