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The ACLU

Discussion in 'Projects' started by anon78941, Feb 5, 2008.

  1. anon78941 Member

    The ACLU

    It's kind of a random thought but has anyone gotten in contact with them? They love to tangle with "the man" and would definitely draw the attention of the main stream media.

    Someone who's a far better writer than me aught to consider drafting a letter to them.
  2. suprisingly (to some) they might side with scientology

    re:eek:ppressed victims of religious persecution
    ( those atrocities? isolated incidents )
  3. x-9er Member

    Nope. ACLU has sued Scientology numerous times, usually for violating other people's civil rights. Most notably they defended the Scientology Kills website guy when Sci sued him.
  4. Dubber Member

    Calling up the ACLU and saying "side against this organization with me" is doomed to fail. The ACLU takes sides on present legal questions, not organizations. It sided against Scientology with scientology-kills.net, and it sided with Scientology against old CAN.
  5. anon78941 Member

    Nope. ACLU has sued Scientology numerous times, usually for violating other people's civil rights. Most notably they defended the Scientology Kills website guy when Sci sued him.[/quote:1ecdpv20]

    Good. I'm thinking we should put the pressure on them to sue. Not Scientology, but the US government for failing to stop them. The Clearwatter situation is particularly notable.
  6. x-9er Member

    Good. I'm thinking we should put the pressure on them to sue. Not Scientology, but the US government for failing to stop them. The Clearwatter situation is particularly notable.[/quote:321x36ep]

    As far as I've observed, the issues in this campaign where civil liberties intersect with Anon and Sci are the following:

    Any restrictions on protest content. If police inform Anon they cannot say certain things, hold signs with certain sayings, or cannot sing/dance/play music, that's a content-based prior restraint and actionable (given that the content being restricted isn't in the category of things a reasonable person would recognize as being dangerous, i.e. obscenity, inciting others to commit crimes [[THAT INCLUDES HONKING]], or putting public safety in danger). This is Anon + ACLU vs. Law enforcement.

    If we do this correctly, that's pretty much it.

    If Sci has some kind of religious freedom not extended to other religions, then those religions could file suit against the IRS or something... but that's beyond the auspices of my education.
  7. Dubber Member

    There is already one case along these lines, Sklar v. Commissioner.

    What could set Scientology apart from other religions, legally, is that they want to have it all ways. They want to call their fees "donations" and attach particular amounts to particular services. They want to call their employees "volunteers" and count their time against auditing services. They want to receive federal money for Narconon and Criminon and be the sole authority on their effectiveness. et cetera.

    In my opinion there would be a better chance of accomplishing something by getting help from organizations that specialize in labor and human trafficking laws, provided they know what they are up against.
  8. usmcwog Member

    how about contacting Amnesty International? this is a worldwide cult with victims in every hemisphere.

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