The Smoking Gun: Trump, The Least Charitable Billionaire

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  3. DeathHamster Member
    Thank you sir!

    (Although: enhanced interrogation? What, never?)
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  4. DeathHamster Member
    Just kidding!
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    I was like :eek: then I was like ;)
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    I know that I'm going to catch some flack for this but Cruz is in my opinion. The only real viable alternative.
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  10. They are both monsters. The Donald is a con artist without much intelligence. His policies are what sounds cool to him on any given day. He has human warmth at least.
    Ted Cruz is a soulless and smart. He has actual beliefs, he is intensely disliked by the people he will work closely with.
    Doom. Both of them.
  11. The Internet Member

    I hate to break it to you, broseph. But Ted TeaParty Cruz is at the top of the heap because the Koch machine put him there. Those guys are ideologues. They firmly believe that government is bad and corporations are awesome. They are on record as wanting to turn over our civic infrastructure to business people, including Medicaid, Medicare, National Parks, the FBI, the EPA, etc.

    From where I sit, a world with a much weaker Federal government means there will be rules. But only poor people will be required to follow them.

    Trump is an embarrassing attention whore. But most of his political life he's been a moderate. He's okay with the idea that women can decide whether to have an abortion or not (even though he was touched by Jesus and saw the light last Thursday). He doesn't sound like an anti-government libertarian nutter. And most importantly, he wants to be popular and successful. So it isn't likely that he's going to hit us with a fascist coup. He'll just shake up the Republican party, which is not a bad thing. But the Republicans, having become an ossified cult, will be freaking out about the change in music. So we will get a bunch of crazy ass paranoia about Trump destroying the nation and that will be hard to take.

    Anyway I plan to hold my nose and vote for a Democrat this time.
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  12. Anonymous Member

    I can not and will not vote for Hillary nor Bernie. I'm going to sit it out if Donald is the nomine.
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    And how is Cruz in bed with the koch fags?
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    Trump displays his steaks, wine, water. The steaks are from Bush Bros. (it says that on the label)
    Trump wine
    "The table was stacked with bottles of Trump Wine, and Trump declared of the winery, "I own it 100 percent, no mortgage, no debt."

    ""Trump Winery is a registered trade name of Eric Trump Wine Manufacturing LLC, which is not owned, managed or affiliated with Donald J. Trump, The Trump Organization or any of their affiliates.""
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    The article is about of violence and protestors at Trump rallies. The Chicago rally was canceled, there was violence in St. Louis.
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    This shit is getting out of hand. He is shamelessly encouraging his followers to engage in acts of violence. WTF republicans, you think this is behavior befitting a world leader anywhere in the world. SMH.:(
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    Trump's new normal: campaign rallies where chaos is expected | Associated Press

    Hundreds of police officers, Secret Service agents and private security guards in cars, on foot and on horseback blanketed the area around Donald Trump's campaign rally Saturday afternoon. Dozens of protesters would soon be ejected from the event.

    And that was the calmest rally in the past several days thrown by the front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination.

    Welcome to Trump's new normal.

    After months spent goading protesters and appearing to encourage violence, Trump has seen his raucous rallies devolve over the past two weeks into events at which chaos is expected. The real estate mogul is routinely unable to deliver a speech without interruption, and a heavy security presence is commonplace amid increasingly violent clashes between protesters and supporters.

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    When Donald Trump enjoyed a number of wins on Super Tuesday earlier this week, it seems that a number of Americans began considering a rather drastic option: moving to Canada.
    Google searches for advice on this costly yet somewhat understandable venture spiked dramatically after Trump's victories.
    But it looks like US citizens keen to escape the growing popularity of Trump - and perhaps even the nightmarish possibility of him becoming president - could find themselves facing a particularly big hurdle. Or at least if Adam Hills has anything to do with it.
    The Bricking It For Canada campaign is asking people to pledge bricks to a border wall between the US and Canada
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    The man is idiotic
    "Trump on cyber warfare
    "We’re losing a lot of people because of the Internet,” Trump said. “We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what’s happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that Internet up in some way. Somebody will say, ‘Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.’ These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people. (2015, CNN)"

    This makes my blood run cold
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    Sorry, I think this whole thing has been one big joke.
    He will never be president and he is nothing more than a huge distraction.
    I think there are outside participants who are in cahoots to make his idiotic rallies appear more volatile and outrageous so they can publicly put the final nail in his kooky campaign coffin. AS PLANNED.
    The only thing his campaign has accomplished is to separate people even more in the US and to make other countries laugh even harder at the US and again to DISTRACT.
    I have to wonder if this huge distraction is because of Korea? hmmmm?
    At least his campaign has helped to shine a light on some really raciest yahoos attending his rallies though, so kudos for that. (if in fact they are not hired hands)

    So is Trump, I mean Drumph, the biggest troll evar?
    I refuse to believe this whole dog and pony show is on the up and up. Either because this whole thing reeks of fail, or that I refuse to believe that anyone in the US would ever back this orange haired orangutan. Someone needs to add orange hair to the troll face above.
    Adjusting tin foil hat.
    Carry on
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    I too shall don my tinfoil hat
    This tool is actually resonating. I never thought for an instant he would present such a genuine threat. He knows full well if he or his rallies become the target of violence he will pick up even more support through the sympathy vote.

    So the question begs whose hired agitators are they precisely?
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    Sadly Trump is running for President 4 reelz. He's ego is just that large. He believes he should be President, he has said that for years. Looking at this from the article in The Internet's thread about conspiracies- the number of people required to bring this off is huge. He is this horrible, my countrymen can be this stupid, he very likely will be our Republican nominee for President.
    The fact that he is a huge distraction is being used by others for their own benefit. Criticism of Clinton is drowned out, the Republican attempt to block Obama's Supreme Court nominee hasn't gained support- in this case the idea of Trump choosing the next nominee is terrifying to everyone.
    Even if he isn't chosen as the Republican candidate he is in a position to dictate terms for the Republican Party.
    As to agitators- I suppose they could be paid but that's doubtful, you know this is how we act against attempts at limiting our civil rights.
  27. tinfoilhatter Member

    I remember back when the media said Obama was a communist Muslim on one side, and the greatest hope for humanity on the other, when in reality he was just George bush 2. I have since started taking everything they say with a grain of salt.

    Here is my tinfoil conspiracy. It follows Occam's razor a little: Trump knows the media, and he knows people. He has been using the left's and the media's bias against them, as well as the partisan divides of the last 8 years, and it is working flawlessly.

    Trump ran in 2012 as a joke, a means to hype himself up and win a few contracts like what Ross Perot did back in the early 90s. Only he realized that he was actually popular. This time around, he sees the weak sauce, mentally deficient stooges that are in politics now, and concludes that he can beat them.

    So he creates a populist narrative based around the economy. It works, flawlessly. Even NPR hypes trump up, and they do not realize it. They will go on a 5 minute spiel about how trump is a racist bigot, followed by news of some company closing down a factory and outsourcing the jobs to mexico. First it was the Oreo lines in Chicago, then it was the carrier plant. Then you have the Disney H1b visa stuff. Its hard to dismiss the guy, when his critics inadvertently prove his point, and are completely oblivious to this.

    The thing people do not get, especially the media, is that politics do not exist in a vacuum.Trump knows this. He knows this from TV. He was on tv for years, even made guest appearances on wrestling. When he anticipated ratings would dip on the apprentice, he would do episodes that would bring in the viewers. The "Star Wars Sells" episode got me, it was simple, and it was disturbing how a Darth Vader cardboard cutout can some how increase sales of stupid shit products.

    But the guy knows people, and he knows media, a dangerous combination for a candidate.

    So when he said "we need a Muslim pause", he was taking a calculated gamble. One that paid off. Last super Tuesday, that weekend before, a Muslim nanny in Russia walked down the street with the severed head of a 4 year old. Talk about the type of shock news that the media will play up, right into his hands. Sure it was an isolated incident, but it made his "crazy" Muslim pause sound a little less crazy.

    So now we are up to another super Tuesday, and this weekend we had A Trump rally interrupted in Ohio, and Chicago, and terror attacks in Turkey and in Africa.

    Meanwhile, none of the other republican candidates have brought anything to the table to counter trump. They have not countered his policies, they have not dispelled his claims, they have simply behaved like politicians that have towed the party lines, had the right connections, and pretty much had success handed to them. They can't really counter him either, because to do so, to say he is wrong, would undo 8 years of heavy handed political rhetoric. Rhetoric that today's republican party has built itself on.

    That is the nasty bit. Right now, the fight is between republicans. Those are the votes that matter to trump. Any opponent who disagrees with trump, will be going against the shit that they have said over the last 8 years, the deadlocks they caused, the stupid bills that failed, the filibusters and the crazy speeches. For them to call trump out, they have to admit that they where liars, and that their partisan crap was nonsense.

    They will not do this. They will support the asshole before they do this.

    The scary bit, the true and utter scary bit, is only global improvement will stop trump. That there will not be a terror attack in Europe over the next few months, and that the economy will improve this is the only way to stop him.
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    ^^Excellently put, Hatter!^^

    The Republican party brought this one on themselves.
  29. tinfoilhatter Member

    I get a lot of schadenfreude out of this election. A lot of chickens are coming home to roost. The best part, is if trump does win the nomination, it will open the flood gates for more rich people run. So the career politicians are very worried right now.

    Keep in mind, Trump has spent far less on his campaign then any of the other candidates, and he is getting a lot more success.

    The sad part though, is that trump is just as much a creation of the left and the media as he is a creation of the republicans.the economy is not healthy, but no one wants to admit to this. They have given Trump free reign on the topic, and it will bite them in the ass come November.

    Trump is anti tpp.

    Keep in mind a lot of the wto protesters where left leaning individuals, and These guys buy into trump more then any other candidate. Those guys hate tpp, as do the net neutrality people. So if it becomes a Trump vs Clinton, Trump will probably win. If it is Trump vs sanders, Sanders will have to work extra hard to get the voter turnout, but i do not see him picking up any red states, the way obama did in the past.

    Its going to be a crazy year.
  30. Random guy Member

    Nah, I have a very hard time believing he'll actually end up president. There's an actual election later on.
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    More at link:
    What a crock of shit, pathetic comparison of the redoubtable and thoroughly decent Nick Xenophon, with the cancer that is Trump. Not happy Jan :mad:
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  39. "I was watching the news a little while ago, and one of the commentators said, “But Donald Trump doesn’t get over 50 percent.” ... And I have to explain to these people... They don’t understand basic physics, basic mathematics, basic—whatever you want to call it."

    So not only was this a deeply embarrassing night for Marco Rubio, but physicists everywhere are now legally obligated to set fire to their degrees in deference to Professor Trump. It is basic whatever you want to call it, after all. Sad!"
    I love Gawker
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